JawnyBlaze

So do the Browns of the past infinity years

Keeping the tank alive

Wilks was the same when he was DC years ago. Got worse as the games went along. We have the players, just not the coaching. Across the board.

That’s what I was noticing. All these clowns screaming about Burns and all the big runs have been to the opposite side.

Thank god no Vilma and Albert today. Sanchez isn’t great but he’s ok.

Flutie, Russel Wilson (yea I know Wilson is thicker, maybe Young could bulk up some). Not many successes, but then again nothing has ever been done until it’s done the first time. There wasn’t much precedent for a linebacker Mills’ size being great until he was. I prefer Stroud but I’d be good with Young if that’s how the chips fall.

Trick question, don’t let the top two escape us. Trade up if we have to. There’s not a third QB I’m interested in, so in the interest of the OP, take BPA. No thanks to Levis, Hooker or any other QB. I’d rather give Corral a shot than spend a pick on any of the other QBs.

I liked Allen a lot that year, he was my favorite QB of that draft but we didn’t need one then. I don’t like Levis so far, I don’t see them as similar.

the fact that McDermott knows how to build a program and let people do their jobs means he isn’t a Rivera

Imagine good coaches, Cam, our current OL and healthy CMC and DJ

2015 was the most fun I’ve ever had as a fan of sports. Moreso even than the Jordan era when I was a Bulls fan (Jordan fan) or any other team I’ve followed. But that coach and his staff completely f’d an incredible team and are 1000% the reason we weren’t 19-0 that year. I don’t want a coach that coaches like any of the old Panthers teams because we’ve pretty much always been coached by buffoons. Minus the early Fox years maybe.

That’s why I don’t want Wilks for next year. We don’t need to be the old Panthers, they never won a Super Bowl. We need a coach like we’ve never had before. A winner.

Yea I was joking. Allen was my favorite in his draft too, I just trust my own eyes and still prefer Stroud

Oof. Makes me rethink my desire for Stroud if Kiper likes him…

Oh absolutely, Robbie was a worse value than Kirk or any of these other new contracts, but it was also a lower investment. Kirk to me was worse because it was a bigger commitment.

Burns isn’t a liability against the run at all. He’s actually quite good against the run despite the rhetoric parroted on here. 30-45 is an extreme exaggeration, and the first rounders in question are 2 and 3 years down the road. If we had gotten offered two real first round picks (this year) then the deal probably would have had a chance. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush though, we couldn’t necessarily replace either with a first because that first could easily be a bust whereas Burns is a proven young commodity.

Sack numbers aren’t everything though. Reddick is only comparable to Burns in that one category, plus Burns is younger. Reddick will need to be replaced again in a couple years probably while Burns will be locked up and productive for longer. Just my opinion, and I liked Reddick, but he had less of an impact despite having a couple more sacks.

I’d expect Burns to get closer to $25-27mil rather than 30 if we extend him sooner rather than later. If we wait for more DE contracts to get done it may go up, the tide is always rising. I keep going back to the Kirk deal because it’s still ludicrous even though it’s less than I remembered. $18+mil a year for another 900 yd 8 td season

Yea I was agreeing with that. Hill is worth more than Burns. Not Kirk.

Yea looks like my memory was just off. Kirk got 4 years up to $84mil, Adams got 5 years 141.25mil and Hill got 4 years 120. Point holds though. If Kirk got $21mil a year, a top DE contract should blow a mid tier WR’s contract out of the water. Hill is more of a game changer, sure, but WR isn’t a more important position than DE and Burns is going to get upper tier DE money.

I dunno if my memory is just off but I remember Hill getting $35mil a year and Kirk getting $30, and Adam’s getting just under Hill

Kirk got $30 a year I thought. That’s what I heard at the time and blew my mind

Christian Kirk is making more than that top DE money. Let that sink in lol

$24mil a year for a DE doesn’t seem that extravagant when we got WRs making $35mil a year. Burns is easily worth more than that, and he’ll get it if Chubb got 24. Burns is better by a fair bit.