Jon Snow

Dalton will be gone. They cannot dump all their qb's at once. You are suggesting they replace all of them, granted they all do need it. But that not feasible in one offseason. If there's a new coach he will have to bring in a new vet that can run his system if that's the case. Counting on a rookie right out of the gate is how we got here. Thise team doesn't have enough talent to favor a rookie right out of the gate.

And it sucks. He worked under Pete but he didn't design or call the plays. He followed Pete's process implemented Pete's concepts You cannot see any of that the last 2 years. A few deep shots does not indicate a west coast system. Canales was not good in Tampa when he had much better talent and he is no where near talented enough to take a incredible less talented team and make them better.

I'm not sure they trade Young until after next season. They still need a backup and Hooker is an unknown right now. The offseason is setting itself up to be very interesting.

Exactly.

He was an OC for Baker and the Bucs. Prior to that doesn't count as he wasn't the guy calling plays. You keep trying to give him credit for someone else's work. He has been given credit where it wasn't due. He's not a qb whisperer. That is what fans called him to have hope that he could fix Young because he "fixed" Geno and Baker when there was no proof he actually had anything to do with it.

Keep neither.

Canales doesn't have a system. He's only been an OC 2 seasons and both were not good. He talks about what he wants to do but it's not resembling anything that makes sense. The problems go well beyond a bad qb.

Those 2 teams were not as depleted as the Panthers. There is no quick fix for this team. There is no foundation to build on.

Yesterday was my 64th birthday and the game almost ruined it for me. Luckily I had one of my best birthdays yet. I hope you find a better job my friend.

Tepper hired a firm the he ignored. He had Morgan in all the GM interviews for goodness sake.

Tepper cannot get anyone worth his salt to work for him. Dave and Dan were his only options. Canales is what I thought he was when he was hired. He's a glorified Pelaton instructor that is just happy to be here.

The easiest fix is to clean house and hire a respected team builder. Tepper should not even set foot in the facility.

I know I wouldn't.

^^^^ BINGO!!! Now you are beginning to see through the hype. We didn't get here in one offseason and it will not be fixed in one. This will take finding the right FO and coach combination and many years of good drafts by them to dig out of the nfl cellar. This team is FUBAR.

The list is long indeed. So much for wr depth huh? The defense is still putrid. The coaches were getting out-coached all day. The entire team seemed lethargic and out of sync. And that's only part of it.

The team needs 2 qb's. A starter and a backup. I'm not sure the current starter would win a backup job at his current pace.

You can have all the expectations in the world for this franchise and it will not change a thing. It is FUBAR.

Keep dreaming. You are never going to get that.

I've been saying that for several years now but nobody believes me. Its just a dysfunctional, snakebit franchise.

I didn't understand a word but she can dance for me anytime.

Drink more alcohol and it will clear it up.

Glad to help. Most threads eventually turn to crap anyway so we decided to save you some time.

I loathe them all equally.