Jon Snow

How could you forget Moose? If I remember correctly he was drafted in the second round.

Or track down the thicker kicker. I hear he's looking for work.

I don't know about abandoning it but I'm sure Andy would have wished they had ran it on that interception that finished us off. My only complaint would be that they had the opportunity to run it a few more times than they did to get the score even before the 4th quarter from where I sit but that's a hindsight observation. In the end they should have ran on their defense more each quarter as their run defense is almost as bad as ours. But I understand why they didn't. The game went sideways and that's all she wrote.

Patience my friend. The cream will rise to the top by seasons end.

I think that myth is busted.

Im thinking they are getting their talking points from this place. I'm pretty sure Darin Gant and Person both have stoll material from here and put it out as their own thoughts.

They will be robbing other teams practice squads just to be able to field a 53 man roster before the season is over at this rate.

No team is as dumb as the Panthers have been. I can't even say that there is another team out there more desperate than this team has been even considering something so asinine as what the Panthers gave up. The Panthers are a cautionary tell on what trading up that high will do to your team if you get it wrong. It's just not worth it.

It would have to be a blockbuster offer before I would consider it if it were me. This team can ill afford to pass on a guaranteed start for a couple of backups and a future unknown.

That would be the prudent th8ng to do but this team had not been known for doing that.

I cannot see how they will out suck the Panthers but it's possible. That would mean a good defensive player is in play. Going to be an interesting draft for the Panthers. As long as they don't trade up again I may be able to sit through the entire draft.

I've noticed that I'm saying "who the hell is that guy?" a lot during the game when the Panthers are in defense.

As long the player is bpa it makes sense. Reaching on a bottom of the 1st at best qb at 4 and possibly 1st overall is how we got here.

Their biggest issue is they cannot stop the run or pass. If they could do at least 1 of those they might have a chance at not getting blown out. They stink at both and this is what you get.

Everytime they did they got burned. It's better that they don't with this group.

So far it looks like the Panthers are the only team in the group that really need a qb. Cleveland can have Sanders and his ego maniac Dad if they want them but I'm not sure they will pull the trigger. I hope the do and it Sanders.

I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle. The players just aren't capable of anything more that what they've learned so far and all of the new guys are just trying to learn the base defense. I'm not sure how you scheme around a lack of experience and skill even if Evero could. I'm not going to lose sleep if he leaves because it would not matter in the grand scheme of things. More talent would help a lot but that takes time.

Too early to decide on extensions for anyone. There's a lot of games left to be played and you have no way of knowing what will play out with these guys. Patience wins in the end.

If you treat this season as an extended preseason it makes it easier to stomach watching. It's experience for the rookies and allows you a more thorough evaluation of your backups against other teams starters. Maybe 1 or 2 nfl level starters develop out of this abomination of a team for next year's attempt at team building.

They have two choices with Hubbard, give him an extension or draft his replacement. Brooks will split carries with Chuba or whoever they replace him with. This team needs two RB's to be successful. You cannot run one back into the ground.

It's probably because they have been there for the last 4 seasons. I expect them to be there for a good while longer.

Some team will take a chance on him. You just have to find one desperate enough to trade something for him. He's here for another season at least. Most likely as qb3 if he is just due to that contract acceleration clause if nothing else.

...and the Lions.

Dan did ok in FA for what he had to work with. I'm sure it's hard to get anyone with options to sign here. It whip be for awhile. But we had to field a full team so it is full of replacements right now. His drafting will take a year or two to flesh out the whole value of those selections. The drafts will make or break his success. Oh, and not making stupid trades or contract extensions.