Jon Snow

If Mendoza is sitting then when the Panthers are on the clock they better not hesitate to take him. He can play football.

Why would you lower your standards? If you all you want is a inferior qb that is already struggling in college just pick up an udfa. There's no reason to draft that type of qb in any round because there's hundreds of them. You are looking for someone overlooked by everyone on probably goes to a small school with little to know national coverage. Thats the type of guys you're looking at on day 3. Some drafts there isn't any so the numbers per round are not the same. An overwhelming majority of qbs are taken in the 1st round so the bust numbers should be higher or the time in the league will be longer. Teams will always give a 1st round pick more time to get it or will get more chances with other teams because of where he was picked alone. Im not sure how you factor that in.

I know that it's a long held assumption by fans and teams but to me that's been proven to not be the case. It's more about evaluation or more specifically whose doing the evaluation in my estimation. Thats where overdraft and undrafted comes into play. That skews the data to where you aren't getting what you are really looking for.

I'm the only sane person on here. Its everyone else that is crazy.

I kinda think you need to keep the criteria the same regardless of round. I wouldn't settle for a worse TD:INT ratio just because I pick him on day 3. It the same with completion percentage. You need someone that at least has that going for them because it certainly isn't getting better against the big boys.

That makes two of us.

I guess I look at the draft a little differently than most. To draft position only means how many players were taken before your pick. It doesn't mean the player I selected was automatically worth being selected at that time to me or anyone else. It will not make him better than he is or will be just because I picked a day 2 player on day 1. Does that make any sense at all or do I need another toke and try again?

Well it is. I'm Satan's accountant.

Im sitting in the corner shouting out my unwanted opinions myself. Kung is going to get irritated with me soon. I'm going to go watch the game and reread his original post when I'm sober.

Also you are trying to predict the future but you need to start with a baseline for each draftee with their college career production. Maybe you've already done that or are pulling it from somewhere else. Just throwing thing's out there to consider.

Im not sure expectations should be a factor. Because how do you define something undefinable? Is it based on cost invested? Is it based on draft position? Because we know players are overdrated all the time. This could take NASA to figure out.

Also checks out.

Pretty much what I saw as well.

Success means different things to everyone. So much of a qb's success depends on things beyond his control that you have to find a way to find a way to narrow it down to only things he directly controls.

Nah I have heard that so many times when I've called for tech support I could get a job as one. Thats all they know.

I think I have the jist of it but im going to think on it for a while and get back to you. Im thinking there has to be a cutoff in league years to separate league draft tendencies in there somewhere. Im a bit to toasted to be analyzing anything at the moment.

Well that didn't take long. Channeling his inner Andy.

You would have to take out an outlier like Brady then because he will skew the numbers I would think.

Have you tried unplugging for a minute then plugging it back in? That usually works for me.

How do you factor in the strength of the over class and year taken. Those details have some impact. How much of an impact i cannot say. Maybe im not understanding the exercise and should just bow out.

Either. Both.

Im not sure there are workable solutions. A large factor in a selection is pure luck. And as Basbear just said it really comes down to the team and coaches they are paired with. Im not sure how you factor something like that in.

If this place closes I will have to go into rehab.

If you think Andy was bad just wait until you see Hooker. Thats if he has even learned enough of the playbook to complete 1 drive much less an entire game.