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He literally started as a freshman at Georgia and started every year afterwards at various positions--I think he was a steal in the sixth round. He did start at least one game at C. I think they played him some at C during camp last year.

There are some good centers in the draft--it is deep at C, but do you want to start compromising with the OL now? I would rather go without an upgrade at TE than let a good starting C walk.

I have been eyeballing him for about 2 weeks now. Spotrac estimates his salary around $9m, but they are off a lot--I think $5-7 gets him because the TE market in the draft is so deep.

We lead the league every year in dead cap money though--we have that.

And he did not mention WR.

That guarantees us a 2-15 season.

the number 1 pick is still for sale, if you think about it. If a team offered four first rounders, would we do it?

He will be in the $22-25 m range.

OK, I am Reich, Caldwell, and McCown and I am talking QB. Start with Caldwell, who was successful with players like Peyton Manning, Joe Flacco, and Matthew Stafford. Starting to see a "type" forming? Tall pocket passers. McCown and Reich were tall, pocket passers. In my opinion, once they do a deep dive into the film, they will see skills in Stroud that separate him from Levis and Richardson. His size will separate him from Young. There are not 2 QBs atop the Panther board right now--only 1.

good point

I think we will sign a WR in free agency, but the rest of the $$$ will go to find 2-3 free agents--a NT, S (depending on Chinn's involvement) and maybe CB (remember what Brady did to us, and we can count on Action Jackson for about a half season). I think Shaq and Luvu will be the inside LBs.

responding to the first page only--(have not read pages 2-3) I was looking at the post trade mocks online and most have Young as the pick. That could be simply because he is rated as QB 1. To me, when drafting a QB, you really need to look at their potential. At both schools, the QB got good coaching--so this might come down to this: Is Young's processing and work ethic enough to carry him over Stroud's physical tools? Both have both, so it probably will come down to the system and fit.

that is fine--that is an opinion and you did not attack someone else for having one. I agree, but we are still going to need a starting LB if we cut Shaq, and he seems to know the locker room and is trusted by members of the organization, for what that's worth. I thought his contract was a bit excessive when signed, but considering the circumstances and where we are now, I get this move--I would not have been in position to have to make it, but I HATE creating dead cap and we are like second in the NFL in that category--like the player or not, dead cap cripples the team more. By the way, I am of the mindset that you should never have a RB on a second contract---like in college, bring them in, keep them for 4 years, and when they age out, ship them out. The reason? At 26 the RB is in his prime. At 27, they start declining (there is research on this). by 30, they are usually ineffective (there are exceptions). Few ever earn their second contract.

Absolutely--I am not a big fan of his, but we have been spoiled with the ILB positions over the years. If we released him, there would have been something like $11m in dead cap (I am not sure how all that works). Then we would take the $13m we saved and spend $10-12m finding his replacement in free agency-probably nobody younger or nobody better.

How about "CJ not Henderson." I have a lab for brainstorming, but it was locked.

Some of y'all make posts on the huddle to share your opinions and to hear the opinions of others. Others of y'all make posts on the huddle to criticize the others for having an opinion. It's cool that they did what they did--one less free agent to worry about, because we would have had to replace him. 2 years until age 31--that is still in his prime and he will be playing inside--he is not a RB....Personally, I thought he was a goner, but the cap room we saved we would have spent on an equal or lesser player, imo.

In fairness, Mills, Morgan, Davis, Beason, Kuechly---we are pretty spoiled when it comes to LB....

The Carolina Panthers are on the clock.

The Titans were the Oilers. But I enjoyed the rant!

This entire thread is to say, "The Carolina Panthers are on the clock"

Personally, on draft night, I think we should trade the #1 pick to Da Bears for the #9 and #61 pick, a first in 2024, a second in 2025, and maybe a WR like DJ Moore.

About 10 days ago, I predicted that we'd trade up with Chicago but added that we would have to throw in a player. After looking at the Bears' needs, I speculated that they would want Brown. Reason? The Bears had a ton of needs and future draft picks don't fill those needs--they also have a ton of cap room. I am glad it was Moore and not Brown, to be honest. So I was close--but by that time, most of us were guessing Bears or Cards--

BASICALLY, THE CAROLINA PANTHERS ARE ON THE CLOCK....

let's say the PANTHERS covet Stroud but want to make 100% sure because they really like Young. They did not trade for 1 player definitively, they traded for control to have the time to research this KNOWING they will get the player they covet--I mean, Imagine the prom was coming up and the two best looking girls in the school wanted you to ask them---you would not rush into that decision, even though Veronica has the hot body and curves--and Stepanie is good looking and smart---you have control because they are not accepting another date until you pick. That never happened to me---I was the guy making those flyers with the pull off tags with my phone number on them--put them in all the ladies rooms--including the faculty ladies room--and the cafeteria ladies' room--fallback insurance. Spoiler alert: My cummerbund matched my date's hair net.

Why now? If we like 2 QBs, this gives us complete control to research them objectively and pick the one we want. we are not trading out...No early second round talent is worth missing out on the guy you want with such a critically important pick. I remember when the Colts had the first pick back in 1998 or so, and they (and the nation) were split between who the Alpha of the draft was --- Peyton Manning or Ryan Leaf. A month before the draft, I bet the Colts did not know. They made the right call.