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Official Canes Off-season Thread
Anybodyhome replied to Panthers Fan 69's topic in Carolina Hurricanes
The NHL draft more resembles the MLB draft than it does the NFL. Almost nobody drafted in the NHL finds themselves sitting on an NHL team that season. Most draftees spend time in the minors or developmental leagues before making it to the big ice. That being said, the Canes have no 1st round pick this year and are thought to be looking at defensemen in the draft. Owner Tom Dundon has stated publicly he'd never use a first round pick on a blue-liner because their upside is so damn difficult to predict. That's good, the Canes have no 1st rounder, so make your first pick in the second round a defenseman. The Canes farm system is stacked right now- no need to trade draft picks. Let teams looking to rebuild and add youth to their rosters come to the Canes and offer picks for prospects. -
Official Canes Off-season Thread
Anybodyhome replied to Panthers Fan 69's topic in Carolina Hurricanes
There's a reason they're not staying in Pittsburgh. Far too expensive. Malkin (35 years old and hasn't played a full season in years) left Pittsburgh with a $9.5M AAV and Letang (also 35 years old) with $7.25M. Please- neither are worth that kind of money. -
Gave it a look yesterday. It's a 8 team league of 3-on-3 made up of former NHL guys, journeymen minor leaguers, etc. The game is 2 8-minute halves of running clock. Icing is a penalty shot and every called penalty is a penalty shot, but the defense gets to come after the shooter after a brief delay. Full sized rink with a complete roster of 7 guys (1 goalie, 6 forwards). Each week's schedule is a bracket starting with 3 games. The 3 winners then play each other and the highest scoring losing team also gets into round 2: Watch this sick penalty shot goal from yesterday:
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Official Canes Off-season Thread
Anybodyhome replied to Panthers Fan 69's topic in Carolina Hurricanes
Not to mention going completely against what Tom Waddell himself stated just last week. Not to mention Waddell saying on June 2 the team is working on a multi-year extension. -
You gotta read this. Pretty amusing because it's apparent the writer knows nothing about how bad Necas's season really was. And, if the Habs did pull a Jesperi revenge move, the Canes would likely go silent and let Necas go. Let Montreal put an offer sheet on Necas for about $4.5 AAV and Waddell would probably not respond. https://sports.yahoo.com/m/328e50f8-7c62-36de-82f9-3358157060cc/canadiens-should-send.html Stieg Larsson once said “To exact revenge for yourself or your friends is not only a right, it’s an absolute duty.” As we continue through the NHL offseason, the Montreal Canadiens might have an absolute duty on their hands to exact revenge. A Quick History Lesson The offer sheet was for an AAV of $8.454 million for five years. The Hurricanes had seven days to match. Then GM Marc Bergevin didn’t mince his words when it came to Aho. “He’s a player who wants to come to Montreal,” Bergevin said of the offer sheet. “It was an offer that he did not have to accept, so for him it’s an offer that for the value he sees in himself, the group of young players coming up in our organization, he wants to be part of that. He’s 21, he’ll turn 22 this summer.” “It’s certainly a surprise. It’s a surprise it wasn’t more,” Waddell said. “I know my summer just got better, because I’m not going to be negotiating a contract all summer. We make a decision and move on.” Six days later, Waddell and the Hurricanes made their decision. They stuck to their word. The Hurricanes matched the offer sheet on Aho keeping him in Carolina. In the end, it was an easy decision for everyone involved. “I’m just relieved that it’s done and Sebastian’s not going to have to worry about this anymore. He’s a great player and a big asset for us,” owner Tom Dundon said. “We said all along that we would match any contract offer,” Waddell said. “It should come as no surprise from anybody that we are (matching) it.” Then in one last shot to the Canadiens, Waddell said that Aho “never wanted to leave Raleigh.” While this situation was fun while it lasted as we finally got to see an actual offer sheet presented, we all thought this was the end. But in a plot twist, it was only the beginning. It seemed the Hurricanes wanted to get some revenge. A little more than two years later, they struck. Jesperi Kotkaniemi, the third-overall pick in the 2018 NHL Draft, was given a one-year, $6.1 million offer sheet by the Hurricanes. The Canadiens now had seven days to match. Like Bergevin before, Waddell didn’t mince his words. Related: Hurricanes Get Sweet Revenge With Kotkaniemi Offer Sheet “Jesperi Kotkaniemi accepted our offer. He wants to come to Carolina,” Waddell said. “He sees the core we’ve built here and he wants to be a part of that. We’re proud, but there’s still a waiting period. When you make an offer like that, we saw a vulnerable position. The offer, with the compensation and the core we have, we realized that it was the best chance we had to get the player.” Familiar sounding words, right? But then the Hurricanes took it even a step further and offered Kotkaniemi a $20 signing bonus, the same number as Aho. Not only did Waddell not forget about the Aho offer sheet, he wanted to make sure the Canadiens never forgot it either. He got his revenge. But unlike the Aho offer sheet, the Canadiens elected not to match allowing the player to join the Hurricanes. Bergevin might be gone. But don’t think the Canadiens have forgotten about this series of events. In fact, they are now in a position to exact some revenge of their own. How crazy would that be? Given what’s led to this, it’s not out of the realm of possibility for this to happen. The Canadiens should send the Hurricanes a revenge offer sheet. The target? 23-year old forward Martin Necas. Canadiens Revenge Let’s set the scene for you. On the surface, the Hurricanes appear to have more than ample cap room to answer any offer sheet thrown their way. As of this writing, they have over $19.3 million in cap space available. But looks can be deceiving. They are in this case. Not only do they have to fill out their roster, they have the eventual task of signing Aho to a long-term deal after the 2023-24 season coming off an AAV of $8.46 million. That’s going to be a doozy. So from an actual dollars available standpoint, it’s considerably less than what we see. Necas is coming off his rookie deal and due a considerable raise given he’s reached 40 points the last two seasons and averaging 15 goals in his first three seasons. The talent is tantalizing.
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Saw it yesterday. Was as cheesy as the original, except the effects were far better. Anyone who served any time in the Navy understands just how far off some of this stuff was/is.
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One of my favorite players on the Canes. Not a ton of pub, not a lot of recognition, but does he get the job done- without question. A tremendously underrated player, not just with the Canes, but across the NHL. Jesper Fast By the Numbers Age: 30 NHL Seasons: 9 Scoring: 14 goals, 20 assists, 34 points in 82 games Playoff Scoring: 1 goal, 0 assists, 1 point in 14 games Advanced Statistics: 58.1 CF%, 59.43 HDCF%, 57.76 xGF%, 62.35 GF% Average TOI: 12:56 ES, 0:17 PP, 1:35 SH Contract Status: One year, $2 million AAV left on his current deal. UFA after 2022-23. In year two of his three-year contract with the Carolina Hurricanes, Jesper Fast had one of his best, if not the best, regular seasons of his nine-year NHL career. The 30-year-old Swede posted career-highs in goals (14) and points (30) and tied his career-high in assists (20) while playing in all 82 regular-season games for the first time in his NHL career. Most of his 1,200+ minutes on the ice were alongside Jordan Staal. When that duo was on the ice together for the Hurricanes, the team scored 39 goals and rendered just 19 against across ~765 5-on-5 minutes. Combined with Nino Niederreiter on the other wing, that duo was even more dominant. In 534:46 of 5-on-5 ice time, the trio outscored opponents by a whopping 34-14 margin while controlling 61.88% of the high-danger scoring chances and 59.58% of the expected goals. Fast was part of one of the best middle-six lines in all of hockey for a large portion of the season, dominating the defensive side of the puck and using their size and physicality to push pucks up ice and maintain offensive zone puck possession. You’d be hard-pressed to find a more efficient and better-tuned machine of a forward line. All three pieces were bought in and played the exact way they needed to play to make them as effective as possible during the regular season, and Fast was a huge part of that. Fast was an elite defensive forward last season, as he was for most of his first season in Carolina, but his 5-on-5 offense was what took a serious step forward. His offensive generation was uncharacteristically low in 2020-21, but he rebounded and was closer to what he was at the end of his time in New York - a winger with average or slightly above average offensive impact combined with elite defense. He did get bumped up the lineup at times, but he was never as effective at the top of the lineup as he was next to Staal and Niederreiter. He does have the versatility to play up for a shorter stretch of time, though. He bookended his season with very strong stretches of offensive production. He netted five goals in the team’s first ten games and racked up nine points in an 11-game stretch in April to close out the season. Of course, much of his impact also came on the penalty kill. He was the fourth-most-used Carolina forward on the PK, just one second behind third-place Teuvo Teravainen. While Jordan Staal was a physical beast and Sebastian Aho was such a huge counterattack threat on the PK, Fast used his active stick, quickness, and smarts to drive him to success in those situations, as he’s done through most of his career. Jesper Fast Isolated Impacts 2021-22. Micah Blake McCurdy His success also came against quality competition, routinely going toe-to-toe with the other team’s best players in the top-six and tasked with playing a shutdown defensive role. There’s very little to complain about on the Fast front during the regular season; he was every bit of what he was brought in to be. But, unfortunately, his impacts weren’t as substantial in the postseason - as was the case with many players on this Hurricanes roster. In the playoffs, the Nino-Staal-Fast trio saw their numbers drop significantly. In fairness, had they maintained a damn-near 3-to-1 ratio of goals for and against in the playoffs, they would have been one of the most dominant lines in all of hockey, but they did get scored on six times and scored just four goals of their own in the postseason. When the quality of competition was amped up, and they were being game-planned explicitly for across two seven-game series, it almost felt like they ran out of steam. The penalty kill also fell on hard times, especially in the second round against Artemi Panarin, Chris Kreider, Mika Zibanejad, and Adam Fox, among many others. That’s where running out of steam becomes very pertinent to the conversation. The Hurricanes’ stunning marching band to the penalty box during the playoffs certainly took a toll on the team’s most reliable penalty-killers, a list that Fast is near the top of. It also could go a long way in explaining Staal and Fast combining for just two total goals in the postseason. In the second round, when Carolina’s top offensive producers couldn’t find the back of the net with any sort of regularity, more pressure was dropped on the depth players to score, and that’s a tricky thing to place on the shoulders of players who have a particular set of skills. Things fell apart late in their series against the Rangers, but it’s tough for me to place blame on a guy like Fast, who was so consistent all year and performed excellently in his role on the team. Fast also had no part in all of the penalties Carolina took at any point in the season. It’s pretty remarkable that a player who is used so often against elite competition only took two minor penalties across 96 combined regular season and playoff games. The second of his two penalties all year came all the way back on February 21 against the Philadelphia Flyers. After that game, in which he and Philly “defenseman” Rasmus Ristolainen took matching roughing minors, he went 32 regular-season games and 14 postseason games without a single trip to the penalty box. That is likely what earned him a handful of Lady Byng votes to go with his three Selke votes - he finished 17th in voting in both categories. He is entering the final year of his three-year pact with the club in 2022-23. If he has another year similar to the one he just had, it’s unquestionably within the team’s best interest to extend their relationship with the player moving forward. He is as professional and likable as they come, regardless of how things are going on the ice. In Fast’s case, things are usually going pretty well for him on the ice.
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If this is the case, Waddell might have to go hard to keep Vincent Trocheck. Regardless of the talent level in Chicago, I'm not sure the Canes can afford to lose both Nino and Vinny without a major free agent acquisition.
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Yeah, they changed it. Congrats to the Calder Cup Champions, Chicago Wolves.
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2-0 at the end of 2nd period. LaJoie and Keane with gols.
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Better coach, better roster, better chance of winning.
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Is there really a need to intentionally tank? Seems to me this team is perfectly capable of tanking without trying.
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I watched the last 5 minutes of regulation and OT. Tampa Bay was down to 5 blue-liners and they couldn't get off the ice in OT. They were totally gassed when Kadri scored the game winner. The best part of that goal was that no one knew it was in the netting up in the back. Complete delayed reaction. Had everyone fooled.
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I moved to Pleasant Garden in 1992, just north of the Randolph County line and within ear-shot of Richard Petty's shop in Randleman. Randolph County was dry then, and Petty's wife was a county commish at the time. Coming from Southern California, I was like, "WTF is a dry county? In the 20th century? Really?" And what the hell else? There's a state lottery and privately owned sweepstakes parlors all over the place. But no sports betting? I mean, it's not for me, but who cares?
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I don't watch any news on any channel. Nor do I have a "favorite team." Nor do I identify with any one political party. Sorry, I can only give you credit for a lukewarm effort there. And yet, you never answered the question as to how you were able to lump women's health care choices and the marginalization of the LGBTQ population into a racial silo.
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I posted this from the league by-laws in another similar thread yesterday while watching the circus. For clarification, the Executive Committee consists of the 32 owners. So, 24 of the 32 owners would have to vote to oust Snyder. Good luck with that. NFL bylaws: The NFL Commissioner, Roger Goodell, can propose firing any owner, shareholder or partner for wrongful conduct and would take that complaint to the league's Executive Committee. He would need three-fourths of the committee to vote yes to terminate the owner. That same committee would also need three-fourths of members to vote on who the next owner would be. The NFL's website outlines league operations and team guidelines. Under the governance section, we found this statement: "Any change in game rules, league policy or club ownership or modification to the game must be approved by at least three-fourths of the executive committee." Our second source is the NFL's own constitution and bylaws. Researchers found a copy of the bylaws on Penn State Law's website. Article 8 states the NFL Commissioner can suspend, fine, or cancel a contract with any owner, shareholder, or partner "who has been or is guilty of conduct detrimental to the welfare of the League or professional football." Article 3 addresses "Transfer of Membership and Termination." According to the bylaws, the commissioner can propose a transfer of membership, but that has to be approved by three-fourths of the league's Executive Committee. The same guideline applies for reassigning a playing field and player contracts after a member is terminated -- those changes also require three-fourths of the voting committee. Any NFL owner can lose their team under the bylaw. But Snyder would have to be terminated by the commissioner, with the decision approved by three-fourths of the NFL's Executive Committee.
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A dominant 4-0 shutout on the road to regain home ice advantage. Kochetkov stopped 36 shots along the way. Series stands at 2-1 Chicago with 2 more games in Massachusetts before returning home for the final 2, if needed.
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What part of legislating away women's health care or the LGBTQ community being more marginalized by the day has anything to do with race?
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Go back to watching Tucker.
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Name me a single demographic in this country who has it better than a white, heterosexual male. Not women- they don't even have a choice as to their own health care. Not any people of color- that's fairly obvious. Not the LGBTQ community- they're becoming more marginalized by the day. And the list goes on....
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Let's wait and see if Siragusa's passing draws the same number of Xanax, fentanyl, mental health or other theories as Jaylon Ferguson.
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Aside from the fact that being anything but a white, heterosexual male in this country has become much more difficult to navigate lately?
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You do understand it will only start and run the way it's supposed to about 25% of the time, will never have 2 consecutive years of maintenance free operation and will only continue to disappoint you until you decide to sell your drivers seats to someone else.