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You don't think what, exactly? The Canes will have to clear cap space to acquire Karlsson and the likely candidate to trade is Pesce, since it seems an extension is proving somewhat problematic. Then look at the right and left handers and tell me how you plan on pairing them up?

Pesce or Skjei will be traded, TDA will be fit in to the top 6. Don't forget the Canes made a qualifying offer to retain Dylan Coghlan- he's the #7. If Karlsson is indeed brought in, we have likely seen the last of both Skjei and Pesce.

Not to mention how many D-men do you want on the roster?

Orlov is too much money for a 3rd pair. Skjei, let's not forget, has a no-trade clause.

Orlov will be 2nd pair, TDA 3rd pair. Pesce or Skjei gets traded and Coghlan is the #7 D-man.

If so, the D is set and Karlsson is an unnecessary expense. Trading Pesce (preferrably) for a winger and keep Skjei.

Nevermind, I'm on the beach and trying to catch up on all the news....

Canes still need a goalie or 2, am I right?

I'm not a fan of adding both Orlov and Karlsson. I think Skjei has grown into his role and developed a lot more than Pesce. I believe Skjei is a legitimate threat as a scoring blueliner and his confidence is high after the season he had, while Pesce is a consistent defender. My opinion: keep Skjei, trade Pesce, got Orlov, get TDA and the D is set.

I mentioned Bunting as a likely possible several weeks ago, fwiw.

If Coghlan got a QO from Carolina, the team is feeling vulnerable on the blue line. Maybe issues with the TDA deal or...? Otherwise I don't see a need for Coghlan. But it's only about $814k...

I have to agree. The Canes are too often the schoolkid getting his lunch money taken. And while we all complain every time it happens, the truth is those incidents are less frequent when you have a TDA It all comes down to timing, eye for an eye and knowing who the refs are. Svech hasn't learned that aspect of the game yet. I only wish Burns would impose and intimidate a little more.

Within days of acquiring Ghost he scored on a couple PPs right out of the gate. I thought- could be wrong- he was paired with Burns on those. Then he got moved to the 2nd unit. I'll try to find it.

Funny how "cap circumvention" is a thing in the off-season, but no big deal when it comes to the last 4 consecutive Cup winners and several contenders.

I haven't looked, but wasn't Torts the HC for the Rags when TDA was there?

TDA was a league worst -15.1 defensive goals above replacement in Philly last year. For all intent & purpose, a skating slalom. Imagine what Aho did to him last season and add 10 more of those. That's how bad he was. Think of the money Chatfield will get if he survives a season covering TDA fug-ups. Oh, and I'm in the camp this has nothing to do with Pesce. It's to fill the spot Ghost is leaving.

2 right-handers on the third pair? I thought it might be a move to plug the Ghost hole, but it also means you only have 2 left-hands on the blue line.

It's a deal that almost guarantees he retires a Cane and also provides him a nice parachute when he does.

And AAV is the number used when considering salary cap.

Supposedly, Staal's people have given the Canes a list of teams he'd accept a trade to. Just one small issue- why would anyone trade for him when he'll become a UFA in about a week? I can't see the Canes letting Jordo walk out the door. That might be a PR nightmare the Canes will regret and Waddell might not survive.

Yes, I'm very aware of Cap Friendly and, if you've red any of my posts, you'd recognize this is one of my main resources. And, you're missing my point entirely. I'm also very aware of Kochetkov's contract status as well as the fact he will be the backup for the foreseeable future. That's not a point of contention with me, I get it. The thread and discussion is about which of the 2, Freddie or Raanta, would/should/will keep and what's your basis for that decision? Andersen's AAV is $4.5M before UFA; Raanta's is $2M (the same as Kochetkov right now). Could Raanta be a Hurricane for about what Freddie was getting the last 2 seasons? If not, a decent UFA or trade acquisition starting goalie will cost in the neighborhood of $6-7.5M.

Freddie is only a year younger and has an injury history much more significant than Anti Raanta. I don't mind that Kochetkov will be the backup. I just fear the 10-15 game stretch when Freddie or Raanta goes down with an injury and Pyotr is a regular. 2021-2022 he played 5 games with a 2.42 GAA and a .902 SV. 2022-2023 he played 24 games with a 2.44 GAA and a .909 SV. I think he was 12-7-5 in those 24 games. Points notwithstanding, that's .500 hockey guys. But the playoffs.... ugh..... 2021-2022: 4 GP, 3.88 GAA and a .869 SV. 2022-2023: 1 GP, 6.18 GAA, .818 SV.

Both Freddie and Raanta had very good years heading into UFA status. There's no way the team can afford to keep both- one of them is going to get paid elsewhere and the other is going to get paid by Waddell. The question is whether or not Kochetkov is ready to be a regular backup behind whomever stays, Freddie or Anti.

I'm right there with ya. He came on like gangbusters, but fell back to earth pretty quickly and, right now, he's not even a viable option as a backup, especially if Freddie remains the starter. We all know Andersen will miss significant time due to injury at some point and having to rely on Kochetkov for a stretch of 10-15 games would be a disaster.

Both Freddie Andersen and Anti Raanta are unrestricted free agents. Who does Waddell and RBA decide to keep? Tough one here. Andersen is a very good goalie, but will be injured and miss 10-15 games per season hurt. And, I think the post season gets in his head. Meanwhile, Raanta is a guy who gives up a head-scratcher every game, it seems, and he has never shown he can go a 10-15 game stretch and not lose some of his focus. Yeah, he was pretty outstanding last season when Freddie went down, but he had a lot of help in front of him and the team was rolling.