Soul Rebel

Bust is a tough word to use on Darnold. Fit is so important and, not to say a lot of his mistakes aren't on him, but that Jets' coaching carousel and bums at OC they had would have made most QBs fail. Darnold could be a bust, but at 23 and given the weapons he had, I don't think it's fair to call him that...yet. For this above reason, I really...really hope we draft Sewell, Slater or Pitts at 8. Two bookend tackles for the next decade or a weapon like Pitts to go with Anderson, Moore and CMC is amazing. Give Darnold what you never truly committed to Cam.... and to a lesser extent, Teddy.

So, with Darnold here now and when the 8th pick comes up, who are we taking: Sewell/Slater Fields/Lance Build a young wall around Darnold or bring in a rookie QB to compete after just trading for a 23 year old #3 overall pick?

If a QB that New England likes is available at 8, any chance that they trade JC Jackson + 15 to move up to 8? We would still get a franchise-caliber starting LT at 15 (Darrisaw/Vera-Tucker) and a stud CB1 that is only 25 years old. We would then be able to add another game changing player at 39 and already have our LT and CB1 of the future locked in.

If Carolina was sitting at 4 and ATL called to move up, we would drain their assets to face Fields/Lance for the next decade. It sucks bc DEN could very easily move up to 4 and then the QBs go 1-2-3-4. Gotta hope SF truly takes Jones at 3 if we want Fields or Lance.

Fromm was the wrong choice between he and Fields. No idea why Kirby chose Fromm but if UGA had Fields instead, I'm thinking they beat Alabama. I wouldn't trade Grier for Fromm, let alone a 4th or 5th.

I think we call the NYJ after they take Wilson at 2 and if we aren't able to get our QB in the first, that we will send a conditional 3rd to them. They have no need for him, and the market has dried up a bit. Sewell/Slater + Darnold will be just fine by me. A creative OC, the connection with Robby and having CMC is something he did not have in NY. Bookend tackles are also huge assets for him, along with a defense that should be top-10 in the league.

I do think if Fields/Lance are still available at 5, we call Cincy hoping to move up. I do think Cincy really, really wants Sewell or Chase at 5, so they might stick to their guns and keep the selection. I do think we would then try to trade up to 6. Denver, New England, WFT and Pittsburgh all make me nervous. Staying at 8 does get us a franchise cornerstone. Whether that is a QB, Pitts, Sewell/Slater, Surtain/Horn or Parsons. I think we would have no problem sending our 3rd rounder to NYJ for Darnold. The only "wrong move" would be taking Mac Jones, IMO.

Odd question - Would there be a scenario where Lynch would move up to 3, just to trade back and accumulate more assets? If they wanted Mac Jones, they could've come up to 8 to get him if they thought we were interested. However, no SF holds the cards at 3 and could trade back with us, perhaps gain an extra asset vs. what they gave up to MIA and still take Jones at 8. The SF front office is not a room full of folks that untrained GMs need to enter. Pace got worked in that Trubisky deal and I feel like they have something up their sleeve here.

I'm all for sending our 3rd for Darnold at this point. Keep our 8 and either go Pitts, Sewell/Slater or Surtain II. In the 2nd we can grab a CB or OT (whichever we didn't take in R1) and have Darnold on a 1-yr prove it deal. No current or future firsts given up. No current or future seconds given up. No future thirds given up. We'd have a 24 year old QB under center without crushing our draft capital....and we still have Burns/Chinn/CMC. I know folks are hesitant on Darnold, but look at his coaching staff since entering the league.... 2020: HC - Adam Gase / OC - Dowell Loggains Record: 2-14 2019: HC - Adam Gase / OC - Dowell Logaains Record: 7-9 2018: HC - Todd Bowles / OC - Jeremy Bates Record: 4-12 Darnold has risk, but it's a risky move that appears to be that balance of promise/potential/mechanics vs. need/weakness/cost. That situation in NY has been one of the worst with combination of players surrounding Darnold, as well as no running game, no edge presence and horrible coaches..... along with a bad energy within ownership/franchise.

I know I'm probably in the minority, but I think ATL passes on a QB at 4. We trade up to 5 and take Fields. If ATL takes Pitts/Parsons, I think Cincy would not trade out at 5 and take Sewell to protect Burrow. Then, we move up to 6 with MIA and send even less assets. The sky is not falling yet folks.

I wouldn't mind Reed and think he could be helpful for us, especially with the Fitts connection. You win in the trenches and having a rotation of Brown-Reed-Fox-Roy inside is pretty nasty. If we are going to spend on another free agent in this price range, I'd prefer it be a young CB. Still a couple out there and I'm sure there will be one cut once camps start winding down in August.

Two things.... 1 - John McClain, though connected and respected, has projected every different angle of this franchise and his knowledge has flip flopped so many times. No way the Texans trade Watson, some teams have inquired, Texans would trade Watson.....so on and so on. To call him a puppet would be doing him a favor. 2 - At least our franchise is in no way near the condition of the Texans' front office. A dumpster fire is putting it lightly. The future is dark in Houston and this is a 4-5 year recovery, not a 2 or 3 year project.

JC Jackson or Steven Nelson please. Malik Hooker is still out there too.

I was a big fan of Miller last year and happy we were able to bring him back. I thought he would be a cap casualty. He by no means was an All-Pro for us, but part of that 26-28 year old group of low risk players that we keep bringing in. Some turn out like Anderson....some turn out like Weatherly.

If the asking price is our 2nd, I’d consider it. Allows us to take Sewell/Slater at 8 and have two young bookend T’s for the next decade.

Somebody will want to move up to 3 for a QB. Denver, SF, or us. For all of the back-and-forth with QB FAs, I hope we move to 3 and take "our guy" that doesn't go at 1 and 2. I'm tired of all of this guess work and the burned bridge with Teddy. Get Fields/Lance/Wilson at 3 and call it a day.....without giving up this year's 2nd round pick.

Jonnu: 25 years old - 41 rec. - 448 yards - 8 TD ---- $12.5M avg. Henry: 26 years old - 60 rec. - 613 yards - 4 TD ---- $12.5M avg. Everett: 26 years old - 41 rec. - 417 yards - 1 TD ---- $6M avg. Rudolph: 31 years old - 28 rec. - 334 yards - 1 TD ---- $6M avg. Cook: 33 years old - 37 rec. - 504 yards - 7 TD ---- $6M avg. Arnold: 26 years old - 31 rec. - 438 yards - 4 TD -- $3M avg.

In an article I read about him, it did state that if Pittsburgh can't find a trade partner, they would cut him. I wonder if Tepper and Colbert would work something out to keep away from a bidding war and toss Pitt a 6th/7th rounder. We would have to instantly re-work the contract I believe. High $$ amount in '21 and I think he's on his final year, so I would think a 3-year deal where we kick the can down the road to '22.

I LOVED the Reddick/Perryman signings, but TBH, i think Arnold and Moore are going to make a lot of folks happy too. Arnold just turned 26 earlier this week and went to an insanely tiny school Wisconsin-Platteville and went undrafted. Good on him for making the most of his opportunity. Good chance these flashes that he's shown in limited snaps could turn into something fruitful. Could he really be any worse than Ian "145 yards in 2020" Thomas or any of the other bums we've had since Greg left us?

This looks like close to the price to get to 3, IMO. Maybe next year's pick ends up a 3rd instead of the fifth, but this seems like the cost it would take to swap with MIA. Whatever we do, we have to hold onto our 2nd round pick this year. We shouldn't be drafting this high for awhile and that 2nd round pick will allow us to add a LT or CB1. One more offseason with much more cap space and no reason we don't win the NFC South in 2022.

The opportunity cost of sending our 2nd for Jackson would probably be an OT. So if we go OT in the 2nd (should be the move if we don't trade for JC) we would have a pretty big hole at CB. By the same token, if we trade our 2nd for Jackson, we would have a need on our OL. Hard to fill both until the fourth round, which at that point, the question would be on getting a starting caliber CB or OL. Would we rather have a proven young CB1 or a 2nd round gamble (no pun intended).

Oh, for sure we'll have to pay. I just didn't think it would be anywhere near what the top CBs are getting. I also am of the opinion that we have more space now after all of the Pats' signings to make this happen. I was glazing over Spotrac's page and looked like we have 15M more currently. Not sure how updated it is, or perhaps I'm reading it wrong.

I tried to look back and see if this has already been posted, but I do apologize if this has already been talked about in depth. I think this needs to be our next move. 6'1" 198lbs - 25 years old 2nd round tender placed by NE and after their spending spree, as well as having Gilmore/Mills there already, I think we can swoop in and scoop our CB1. Yes, it would cost us a 2nd...a high 2nd, but the final piece that is truly missing on this insanely athletic, young defense would be acquired in this scenario. I have personally hoped that any QB trade (DW or moving up in the draft) would not include our 2nd rounder this year, so this would allow us to get Jackson. I was sleeping on this kid big time. He has faced a ton of action since Gilmore is NE's Revis/PP shut down guy. His story is littered with having to hustle and prove himself....and he has. A friend of mine is a diehard NE fan....not the a$$hole kind that thinks Brady is God, but a very grounded and intelligent, analytical fan that I've had countless conversations about football with. He told me, "I'd argue Jackson is the best CB in the league that nobody is talking about. After the first year that I saw him, I wanted NE to give him a long-term deal to lock him down for the next decade. First two years, had one of the lowest passer ratings against him. His third year (last year) 2nd in the league in INTs." Jackson came out of Maryland the same year DJ did, so I wonder if Moore and him are in contact. Maybe DJ can get in Snow/Rhule/Fitterer's ear and make this happen. Let's do this!!