PFF Carolina Panthers Depth Chart

[CPF4LIFE]

Roman harper is not a starter in this league anymore. I hope they are smarter enough to see that.

[solorca]

I respect PFF in a number of ways, but any time they add their own commentary I find it to be way off base.

 

This is the same group who just ranked TY Hilton above AJ Green in their top 101 of 2013 list.

 

 

[Pox 08]

I respect PFF in a number of ways, but any time they add their own commentary I find it to be way off base.

 

This is the same group who just ranked TY Hilton above AJ Green in their top 101 of 2013 list.

 

 

 

I thought the same thing,  but with Josh Gordon.   over 1,600 yards in just 14 games......  yet he is ranked in the 70s with a bunch of WRs ranked above him?                      Is it his blocking ability?   Because Jimmy Graham is ranked 13th with horrible blocking ability.. 

[TN05]

What I get from this is that our best players are really good at a league-wide level, but our worst players are poor at a league-wide level. I don't think it's unfair to say Bell, Harper, and Godfrey aren't very good players. I do think they really underrate our best players though.

As a side, I like how they have Nortman rated so highly. I think he'll have a breakout year.

[gettlemanjack]

compare to Falcons

Panther offense: 6 guys in green (QB, WR, TE, C, RB, FB)

Falcon offense: 4 guys in green (QB, WR, WR, RG)

Panther D: 6 guys in green (6 of the front 7, including entire DL)

Falcon D: 3 guys in green (NT, ILB, CB)

Panther special teams: all in green

Falcon special teams: 1 of 3 in green

[mattnasty919]

Lol hardy is high quality but CJ is just good. Thats just preposterous.

[gettlemanjack]

Lol hardy is high quality but CJ is just good. Thats just preposterous.

they have DE Mario Williams light green for "good" just like CJ, and Mario is a 3-time Pro Bowler and 2-time 1st team All-Pro. Think of it like this:

blue - Ultra Elite

dark green - Very Elite

light green - Elite (CJ, Mario Williams)

[gettlemanjack]

they've only done 7 teams so far, but so far they have us with the most starters in green/blue of any team...

Offense

6 - Panthers (QB, WR, TE, C, RB, FB)

6 - Bengals (WR, WR, RB, LT, RT, RG)

6 - Bears (QB, WR, WR, TE, RB, LG)

5 - Ravens (WR, WR, TE, LT, RG)

4 - Falcons (QB, WR, WR, RG)

4 - Cards (WR, WR, RB, LT)

3 - Bills (RB, RB, LT)

Defense

6 - Panthers (6 of the front 7, including entire DL)

6 - Bengals (DT, DE, OLB, CB, CB, FS)

5 - Cards (DE, ILB, OLB, CB, CB)

5 - Bills (DT, DT, DE, MLB, OLB)

4 - Bears (DE, OLB, CB, CB)

4 - Ravens (NT, OLB, OLB, CB)

3 - Falcons (NT, ILB, CB)

Special Teams

3 of 3 - Panthers

2 of 3 - Bengals

2 of 3 - Ravens

1 of 3 - Falcons

1 of 3 - Bears

1 of 3 - Cards

0 of 3 - Bills

[gettlemanjack]

Calais Campbell is listed as elite for the Cardinals. Didn't really look beyond that.

never heard of him either, but, according to spotrac, he is the 5th-highest paid DE in the NFL (behind Mario Williams, Hardy, CJ, and Chris Long). And plenty of people agree that he is an elite 3-4 DE:

-this time last year, former NFL scout Pat Kirwan listed Calais Campbell in his Top Ten DL at any DL position, DE or DT, 3-4 or 4-3. Those ten were his A+ group, he had Hardy in his "A" group, and CJ in his A-minus group.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/22227482/versatile-watt-powerful-ngata-wilfork-best-of-defensive-linemen

Rotoworld writes:

"(Calais) Campbell is annually one of the best 3-4 ends in football.... If not for J.J. Watt, Campbell would be in the discussion as the best 3-4 defensive end in the game."

Walter Football wrote at the beginning of the 2013 season:

"Aside from J.J. Watt and perhaps Muhammad Wilkerson, Calais Campbell is the top 3-4 defensive lineman in the NFL."

49ers left tackle Joe Staley in October of last year:

“Calais is really a great player,” Staley said. “He doesn’t get a lot of love that I think he deserves.”

NJ.com earlier this month:

"THE PROTOTYPE: The ideal defensive linemen...there are a few that are outlining the future of the position. For a 4-3 defense, names like Robert Quinn, Greg Hardy and Michael Johnson stand out. In the 3-4, names like J.J. Watt, Calais Campbell and Sheldon Richardson."

Cowboys blog, Jan 2013:

"Players such as Calais Campbell and J.J. Watt have shown that a defensive end in a 3-4 scheme can create just as much pressure as an outside linebacker in the same scheme."

Dallas' NBC station, March 2013:

"Cardinals defensive end Calais Campbell might very well be the second-best five-technique in the NFL behind J.J. Watt."

Rambling Fan, an NFL blog, argued that both Greg Hardy and Calais Campbell were robbed by not being selected to the Pro Bowl at the end of 2012:

"Calais Campbell has been best NFC 3-4 defensive end this season. . .Carolina’s Greg Hardy is garnering little to no attention because of player for a smaller market squad. Hardy has 13 sacks (T-2nd), 12 hits (T-6th), 36 hurries (T-12th), and an impressive 46 combined tackles (5th)"

etc

[TrianglePanther]

never heard of him either, but, according to spotrac, he is the 5th-highest paid DE in the NFL (behind Mario Williams, Hardy, CJ, and Chris Long). And plenty of people agree that he is an elite 3-4 DE:

-this time last year, former NFL scout Pat Kirwan listed Calais Campbell in his Top Ten DL at any DL position, DE or DT, 3-4 or 4-3. Those ten were his A+ group, he had Hardy in his "A" group, and CJ in his A-minus group.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/22227482/versatile-watt-powerful-ngata-wilfork-best-of-defensive-linemen

Rotoworld writes:

"(Calais) Campbell is annually one of the best 3-4 ends in football.... If not for J.J. Watt, Campbell would be in the discussion as the best 3-4 defensive end in the game."

Walter Football wrote at the beginning of the 2013 season:

"Aside from J.J. Watt and perhaps Muhammad Wilkerson, Calais Campbell is the top 3-4 defensive lineman in the NFL."

49ers left tackle Joe Staley in October of last year:

“Calais is really a great player,” Staley said. “He doesn’t get a lot of love that I think he deserves.”

NJ.com earlier this month:

"THE PROTOTYPE: The ideal defensive linemen...there are a few that are outlining the future of the position. For a 4-3 defense, names like Robert Quinn, Greg Hardy and Michael Johnson stand out. In the 3-4, names like J.J. Watt, Calais Campbell and Sheldon Richardson."

Cowboys blog, Jan 2013:

"Players such as Calais Campbell and J.J. Watt have shown that a defensive end in a 3-4 scheme can create just as much pressure as an outside linebacker in the same scheme."

Dallas' NBC station, March 2013:

"Cardinals defensive end Calais Campbell might very well be the second-best five-technique in the NFL behind J.J. Watt."

Rambling Fan, an NFL blog, argued that both Greg Hardy and Calais Campbell were robbed by not being selected to the Pro Bowl at the end of 2012:

"Calais Campbell has been best NFC 3-4 defensive end this season. . .Carolina’s Greg Hardy is garnering little to no attention because of player for a smaller market squad. Hardy has 13 sacks (T-2nd), 12 hits (T-6th), 36 hurries (T-12th), and an impressive 46 combined tackles (5th)"

etc

No doubt he's a good player. Someone asked who PFF listed as elite. Wasn't passing judgement on whether or not it was merited.

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