BOA Rocking Sunday?

[JB82887]

The problem is the culture of fans and the city itself, not the length of the franchise. There is a vast difference between "Philly Fan" and "Panthers Fan". Then you have a well-organized marketing of fandom in Seattle that MIGHT work here but the franchise cares zero about making it happen. What's the biggest thing they've done in the team's history? Add a drum bang, lol. You will always have laid back, banker boys in their khakis at BOA even 50 years from now. That's just what Charlotte is. There aren't enough SCPs and that's they way I see it always being.

Oh, well if you say so then close the thread.

 

What about me?  I am a product of this.  What about my 7 year old daughter and 2 year old son who goes crazy every time he sees a Panthers logo?  What about my neighbors 10 year old kid that is a Panthers fan even though his dad isn't a fan of the team?  You are telling me that they wont bring the noise or change the atmosphere?  The kids that grow up going apesh-t over wins/losses and spend hours upon hours pouring every fluff article on the team website (and the huddle lol) and make their indifferent fathers stay through the end of the game during the 4th preseason game?  Are you saying they absolutely WILL NOT make an impact once they control the almighty dollar?  What your perspective stems from is what you see in the now, what you lack in vision prevents you from seeing how the changes WILL occur whether you predict that in you forecast Larry Sprinkle.

[JB82887]

whether or not*

[Brooklyn Bully]

Oh, well if you say so then close the thread.

 

What about me?  I am a product of this.  What about my 7 year old daughter and 2 year old son who goes crazy every time he sees a Panthers logo?  What about my neighbors 10 year old kid that is a Panthers fan even though his dad isn't a fan of the team?  You are telling me that they wont bring the noise or change the atmosphere?  The kids that grow up going apesh-t over wins/losses and spend hours upon hours pouring every fluff article on the team website (and the huddle lol) and make their indifferent fathers stay through the end of the game during the 4th preseason game?  Are you saying they absolutely WILL NOT make an impact once they control the almighty dollar?  What your perspective stems from is what you see in the now, what you lack in vision prevents you from seeing how the changes WILL occur whether you predict that in you forecast Larry Sprinkle.

 

No, I'm saying Charlotte isn't "blue collar". It'll always be laid back. Of COURSE there are rowdy fans. I've been to over 70 games. Seen it with my own eyes ... there just aren't enough rowdy fans and there's no way to make more appear even with the next generation. It's a product of the stereotypical "Southern Hospitality". I mean ... we have a PRAYER before the game starts. My father, a retired preacher who lives in Pensacola, was shocked to see that when I took him to that rad Tampa night game a few years back. I mean ... we enforce a PRAYER. That is nuts. The ONLY other pro team to do it is the OKC Thunder in the NBA. So yes ... you can raise your kids to yell as you should ... but you'll always have wine and cheesers in BOA. The culture of the city is not going to change.

 

Now, if you think new ownership will get rid of the prayer, get rid of the honky tonk BS music after a TD, let more people stand and cheer for the Panthers, and try to make gameday a bit more "aggressive", then cool. I hope it happens. I just don't see it.

[JB82887]

No, I'm saying Charlotte isn't "blue collar". It'll always be laid back. Of COURSE there are rowdy fans. I've been to over 70 games. Seen it with my own eyes ... there just aren't enough rowdy fans and there's no way to make more appear even with the next generation. It's a product of the stereotypical "Southern Hospitality". I mean ... we have a PRAYER before the game starts. My father, a retired preacher who lives in Pensacola, was shocked to see that when I took him to that rad Tampa night game a few years back. I mean ... we enforce a PRAYER. That is nuts. The ONLY other pro team to do it is the OKC Thunder in the NBA. So yes ... you can raise your kids to yell as you should ... but you'll always have wine and cheesers in BOA. The culture of the city is not going to change.

 

Now, if you think new ownership will get rid of the prayer, get rid of the honky tonk BS music after a TD, let more people stand and cheer for the Panthers, and try to make gameday a bit more "aggressive", then cool. I hope it happens. I just don't see it.

Well, just an FYI -- I probably would fall into your personal qualifications for white collar.  I was at the first game ever played in Ericsson Stadium in preseason against the Bears. 

 

So lets see.....

 

Brooklyn Bully, "honky tonk", and referencing southern hospitality with such vitriole.  So obviously there are some feelings about the south that you are tying into why you feel as though the atmosphere doesn't live up to your standards.  By your logic, if those were in fact the reasons behind the issues with the crowd you would be right because those are engrained in our culture.  That, however, has nothing to do with the atmosphere at the games.

 

You have obviously never been to a Hornets game before.  Much more honky tonk back then than we are now, and you couldn't hold conversations because of how loud that place was.  Before the NBA came to town the NBA was irrelevant to CHA and therefore the team instantly won the allegiance of the city.  The Panthers were not so fortunate.

[JB82887]

Whether or not someone is white/blue collar has absolutely nothing to do with how they react at a football game. 

You may be seeing a pattern that those well-to-do individuals are the ones not yelling, but they are also the ones that relocated with high paying jobs and they are not the most hardcore fans.

 

 

[Brooklyn Bully]

I lived in the South for 36 years (18 in Charlotte). Sorry that I don't like country music at all. Sorry that I feel Charlotte is one of the most timid cities in the United States. Sorry that southern hospitality does exist and that being in the Bible Belt has a LOT to do with that. Sorry if everyone around me at Panthers games was quiet as a mouse when I went. It was what it was, and it is what it is. Charlotte will never be a Boston, Chicago, Philly, or NYC in terms of aggressive fans. Charlotte will never see "above and beyond fandom" like Seattle, Denver, and Kansas City show these days. Hell, due to the students, Panthers games can't even match the energy of many college football games!

 

And I know all about the Hornets. Went to a few games actually. Not only was it Charlotte's first pro team, thus giving the city something special to cheer for (see: the Hurricanes in Raleigh, and the Thunder in OKC for other examples) but it's basketball, man. Much different animal than football. Smaller crowd, you're closed in, it's an electric atmosphere, it's music-infused, has dance teams, has an energetic emcee pumping you up, etc. As I've said in this very thread, it IS ACTUALLY possible for the Panthers to be more rowdy if the franchise chooses to take the steps to make it happen. But I don't think they ever will. I like you're attitude though. I like that you think you can push out the elderly, the bankers, the Steelers and Redskins fans, the first-timers too scared to cheer, and the good ol boys still out by their BBQs at kick-off, but there is no plan to make that happen. Charlotte will always be a commuter city and huge transplant city. That's great you're raising young Panthers fans, but there is zero guarantee all future PSLs will be sold to them and all future tickets will be sold to them. There is also zero guarantee young buck Panthers fans will be rowdy when they get older.

 

I've seen the stadium LOUD a handful of times, and it was nice. Very nice. But just look at a Seattle game, almost EVERY fan is decked out in face paint, hats, jerseys, boas, necklaces, etc. and they are ALL yelling. That just ain't happening in the QC.

[Malt Liquor]

A Super Bowl win will change everything. 

[Kuhndog94]

A Super Bowl win will change everything.

Yes it will.

We are a young expansion teams.

After our first SB win, those steelers, cowboys, and redskins fans will finally get on board with their home team.

[rmsanger]

This mythical thinking that Carolina's fan base will grow as kids get older and old Pitt/SF/Dal/Was fans die off is just that, a myth. Most of the young folks and kids I know around here are fans of those teams, not Carolina. Your kids may grow up Panther fans, but that's simply because that's how you raise them and they'll pull for dad's team. It's the same way with all those other fans. Their kids are gonna root for those same teams.

[rmsanger]

I lived in the South for 36 years (18 in Charlotte). Sorry that I don't like country music at all. Sorry that I feel Charlotte is one of the most timid cities in the United States. Sorry that southern hospitality does exist and that being in the Bible Belt has a LOT to do with that. Sorry if everyone around me at Panthers games was quiet as a mouse when I went. It was what it was, and it is what it is. Charlotte will never be a Boston, Chicago, Philly, or NYC in terms of aggressive fans. Charlotte will never see "above and beyond fandom" like Seattle, Denver, and Kansas City show these days. Hell, due to the students, Panthers games can't even match the energy of many college football games!

And I know all about the Hornets. Went to a few games actually. Not only was it Charlotte's first pro team, thus giving the city something special to cheer for (see: the Hurricanes in Raleigh, and the Thunder in OKC for other examples) but it's basketball, man. Much different animal than football. Smaller crowd, you're closed in, it's an electric atmosphere, it's music-infused, has dance teams, has an energetic emcee pumping you up, etc. As I've said in this very thread, it IS ACTUALLY possible for the Panthers to be more rowdy if the franchise chooses to take the steps to make it happen. But I don't think they ever will. I like you're attitude though. I like that you think you can push out the elderly, the bankers, the Steelers and Redskins fans, the first-timers too scared to cheer, and the good ol boys still out by their BBQs at kick-off, but there is no plan to make that happen. Charlotte will always be a commuter city and huge transplant city. That's great you're raising young Panthers fans, but there is zero guarantee all future PSLs will be sold to them and all future tickets will be sold to them. There is also zero guarantee young buck Panthers fans will be rowdy when they get older.

I've seen the stadium LOUD a handful of times, and it was nice. Very nice. But just look at a Seattle game, almost EVERY fan is decked out in face paint, hats, jerseys, boas, necklaces, etc. and they are ALL yelling. That just ain't happening in the QC.

Of course they do, they live in the shithole that is Seattle. What else are they gonna do, sit in the rain and cut their wrists while they listen to shitty grunge music and drink cheap coffee?

FYI... I was born in Manhattan and lived in or around NYC until I was 28. New York City is a shithole and 90% the people who live there are jackasses. I don't know why you are constantly parading around here talking crap about Carolina and acting like NY is so great. It isn't, it's a nasty dump.