Mark it down now: Super Bowl LIII belongs to the Panthers

[uncfan888]

Funny to hear you talk about psychology when you have a clear case of split personalities. One loves cam and the other hates him. 

You know who you are 

[RetiredCollegeCoach]

Just now, uncfan888 said:

Funny to hear you talk about psychology when you have a clear case of split personalities. One loves cam and the other hates him. 

You know who you are 

Even for you, a man who has pestered my son for pics, this is a strange post. I do not love OR hate Cam Newton. Obviously, a member of his cult might perceive me as a "hater" - but I am simply aware of his drawbacks and unafraid to speak about them. Certainly I don't love him, but I do not hate him either. I take an objective view.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

1 hour ago, RetiredCollegeCoach said:

RIchardson.

i would tend to agree.  but i don't understand how it's fair to lay the things that went wrong during gettleman's tenure at his feet when he was subject to the same owner.

in a way it would seem like this franchise has had its potential stymied since 1995 and it would be unfair to lay blame anywhere other than richardson, and that includes all front office staff, coaches, and players.

[RetiredCollegeCoach]

11 hours ago, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

i would tend to agree.  but i don't understand how it's fair to lay the things that went wrong during gettleman's tenure at his feet when he was subject to the same owner.

in a way it would seem like this franchise has had its potential stymied since 1995 and it would be unfair to lay blame anywhere other than richardson, and that includes all front office staff, coaches, and players.

I don't really disagree with this, I just happen to also not like the way Gettleman operated, his tendencies, or quite a few of the decisions he made. I think he's a beautiful example of intelligence that curdled into arrogance. I definitely don't lay primary blame at his feet, though. He could have been far better than he was and still been limited by the nature of the organization.

[heel31ok]

14 hours ago, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

if hurney is so good, why didn't the panthers win a super bowl in the 11 years he was the general manager of this franchise

Norv Turner...

[Jangler]

14 hours ago, RetiredCollegeCoach said:

There are folks in this thread who'd do anything to stop a Super Bowl season - I've mentioned in some other threads that I worry about the lengths they'll go to, but we'll leave that aside here.

Anything that challenges their narrative - succinctly, the narrative is "Everything sucks and will always suck, we're cursed, Gettleman was our last hope, GOOOOO GIANTS!" - is idiocy, or wishful thinking, or trolling, or offseason twaddle, or homerism.

It's a type of person I recognize easily, because I built a career on avoiding them and making sure they never played for me. Quite simply, there are people in this world who are happier losing than winning. It's usually a combination of what psychologists call an "external locus of control" and a high tendency toward neuroticism. These are people who've told themselves a tale about the world - it's evil, they're out to get me, nothing can ever go right - and they subconsciously bend their lived realities toward that shape, that arc. They are genuinely more comfortable that way, because it confirms their worldview. To win, to succeed, would be an intolerable shock to the system.

You know who you are.