So, we're the 3rd or 4th crappiest team?

[cookinbrak]

We don't play St Louis, so we don't really know.

[jdpanthers1]

The team is not crappy, the O line, D, running backs, Steve Smith and a few others are playing very well, its Jake aka pick 6, special teams and some of the coaches that are crappy.

[Sword]

The team is not crappy, the O line, D, running backs, Steve Smith and a few others are playing very well, its Jake aka pick 6, special teams and some of the coaches that are crappy.

have some good apples, but enough bad apples to spoil this whole bunch into crap..

[OneBadassCat]

Basically we're a good team that hasn't had enough points to win the game in 4 games. I guess that also constitutes being a bad team. But you guys know what I mean.

[Chickenstring]

have some good apples, but enough bad apples to spoil this whole bunch into crap..

Well said!

I know it's still too early in the season to call it a bust, but we aren't far away. One more example of today's kind of play and I just assume putting a bunch of young 2nd and 3rd stringers in to get them some real experience and hope we lose enough games for the first overall or at least a nice high draft pick. But mainly I say (and I know I'm :beatdeadhorse5:) go ahead and get MM in at QB and let the wolves have their way with him, no matter how ugly it may get. I think it's worth the chance that perhaps he may bring a needed spark to the offense.

What's really sad though is the above could probably fit into a number of other threads here...

[Kevin Greene]

We don't play St Louis, so we don't really know.

This year there are few head coaches less effective than Fox.

Tom Cable, Eric Mangini, Jim Zorn, Steve Spagnuolo. It's not just about the HC, but what they do with the talent on the roster.

That's why I give Rasheem Morris a break.

[AKPantherFan]

when you spot the other team 14 points a game its hard to win.

[Rypkord]

We are a mid level team. 14 or 15.

However we are coached to being a 5th or 6th worse team.

[George Shinnsplints]

The talent is there to be a top 12 team, but the team has quit on Fox, and Fox has quit on the team -- making them bottom 6.

[ItsNotGonnaBeAlright]

A top ten defense coupled with a top ten offense minus a bottom ten coaching staff and a bottom ten quarterback will loose you more games that it wins.

Let's face it here: a strategic coach vs. a conservative coach would have won these games. An accurate qb vs. an inaccurate qb would have won these games.

We are legitimately two staff moves away from a damn good team.

[PlayMoore!]

Well said!

I know it's still too early in the season to call it a bust, but we aren't far away. One more example of today's kind of play and I just assume putting a bunch of young 2nd and 3rd stringers in to get them some real experience and hope we lose enough games for the first overall or at least a nice high draft pick. But mainly I say (and I know I'm :beatdeadhorse5:) go ahead and get MM in at QB and let the wolves have their way with him, no matter how ugly it may get. I think it's worth the chance that perhaps he may bring a needed spark to the offense.

What's really sad though is the above could probably fit into a number of other threads here...

Too bad we don't have a first round pick next year.