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Could signing Okung mean that both Daley and Moton are sliding inside?


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On 3/4/2020 at 10:55 PM, panthers55 said:

The whole line looked terrible last year. I don't know whether it was execution or coaching or both. But I hope they are better if we keep several around. Moton was the bright spot on a really bad line.

You bring up a good point--coaching.  I just did not see the Matsko "bonding" we had seen in the past.  We have had suspect lines that started clicking later--lotta credit to Ryan K-probably the biggest factor-

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Tiger is right--Little does not seem to be a fit at RG because his is not a mauler.  However, i will add that no football player that is confused or injured goes 100%.  Maybe when he gets comfortable...

I do not see him as the pulling LG type either.  The hope, I suppose, is that he can play either spot--but the RG mauler?  Not yet if at all.

In Daley, I see the LG.  See this--he is playing tackle, but it breaks down Daley's run blocking in only his second NFL game.  There is a lot to like about him at G---and I would guess that he could play either, but LG (to me) seems to be the better fit.  (Maybe because I am used to seeing him on the left side of the line.)

https://theriotreport.com/dennis-daley-panthers-run-blocking/

 

 

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7 hours ago, Ricky Spanish said:

I don't understand the logic of replacing Moton (A good RT) with Daley (a bad RT) just to move Moton inside when we could just stick Daley inside where he would do better and not shuffle literally everyone around. 

Like Moton at RT is a B, Moton at RG is an A.

Daley at RT is an F and Daley at RG is a C. 

I just feel it's better to pair the B with the C than the A with the F.

2.5 GPA is better than a 2.0

I see Daley as the next RG or LG---I cannot decide.  He can pull, he is not the mauler Turner was/could be, but he is not a finesse G either.   I think you have to play him at RG and see if he can lock the right side down.  If Little can play LG--we might already have our OL.

I have been saying this for a while--move Little and/or Daley inside and draft a T.  Marty does not want to draft a LT two years in a row--makes him look bad.  I did not see a free agent LT or trade, however--who really does?  I still see us adding a T late in the draft.  It is a good draft for OTs.

About Little being soft---anyone is who is out of position.  If we can close his responsibility, it could be night and day.

 

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Here is the look right now, if you ask me:

  • LT: Okung (was in 2 pro bowls)'
  • LG: Little (finesse player who can get to second level)
  • C:  God Help us. I think we could draft a C.
  • RG:  Daley.   A soild run blocker and can pull.
  • RT: Moton.  If it ain't fixed.

Ironically, I was reading Walter Football's 2019 analysis of Little and it occurs to me that Little's football IQ is suspect.  As a former OL coach in HS, I used to tell the players, you need to know where the player is going to be before he gets there and you need swag.  I used to spend more time in the film room with them than hitting dummies (end of the year).  Little's lack of aggression could be confusion.   He may be mentally overwhelmed at LT.  Put him at LG, and we could see a Travelle Wharton situation.

This was also interesting--note the player comparison:

Player Comparison: Russell Okung. Okung has been a quality starting left tackle in the NFL after being the sixth-overall pick in the 2010 NFL Draft. Okung has been good, but not great, for the Seahawks, Broncos and Chargers. Okung (6-5, 310) and Little have similar skill sets. In the NFL, I could see Little having a career similar to Okung.

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