Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

D-will


Sultan33g

Recommended Posts

I know this has been discussed ad nauseum but why do we keep taking d-will off the field every other series? I understand the two back system but it really doesn't make sense to me. I am not saying that Jonathan stewart is a bad running back, to the contrary, but watching them both it seems like a disservice to keep our BEST playmaker off the field. I know we need to keep him fresh but 14 carries in a game where we kept it pretty close doesn't make sense to me.

Discuss

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I mean I know a 5.3 yds a carry for d-will and a 4.6 yds a carry for Jonathan stewart isnt a huge difference but every time we change from d-will to Stew it looks like a big drop off to me. But yesterday's game with a difference of 2.16 yards a carry was huge and stewart still had 43% of the carries. It is just mind boggling to me.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Also look at the titans. You have chris johnson finally getting the BULK of the carries. Last year he was in this same type of system, yes they were 13-3, but he has alot less bulk on his frame to keep him from serious injury compared to d-will. Put d-will in the type of system to take 70% of the snaps instead of 60% that is adding about 40 more carries to his total of 210. that is still only 250 carries to johnson's 272. I know 230 more yards to his total isnt much but who is to say that that wouldn't make a difference in some of our games, like buffalo, or dallas.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Then we need a coach that will make the decision, not the players.

Apparently that is one of the things wrong with this team. The inmates are running the asylum..

agreed....a coach is the boss, he should make d-will the workhorse. throw him the ball more, get him more carries. He is obviously our biggest threat on the offense, not smith anymore.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

If this was the playoffs or even if we were fighting to get in the playoffs, I would say we need to get Williams more touches. But, we're not. Right now, we have to have the long term in mind, and the best thing for long term development is to have them share carries.

This does two things, it gives Stewart more carries to work on his game and improve. It also greatly decreases the chance of Williams being injured or suffering the effects of over use. The rest of our season might as well be next years preseason at this point, it is time to work on player development for next season. I would actually like to see Stewart and Sutton on the field more and Williams less at this point.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

If we were this was the playoffs or even if we were fighting to get in the playoffs, I would say we need to get Williams more touches. But, we're not. Right now, we have to have the long term in mind, and the best thing for long term development is to have them share carries.

This does two things, it gives Stewart more carries to work on his game and improve. It also greatly decreases the chance of Williams being injured or suffering the effects of over use. The rest of our season might as well be next years preseason at this point, it is time to work on player development for next season. I would actually like to see Stewart and Sutton on the field more and Williams less at this point.

I agree, I am not talking about the rest of the season, I am basically talking in retrospect and for next year basically.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Sorta related.  I just looked up a stat:  Success rates for NFL draft's second rounders.  I was surprised that it is 49%.  The success rate for first rounders is 58%.   Here success does not mean those that did not bust, it means that roughly half of the players selected in the second round become full-time starters at some point in their careers.  Busts do that too.  However, considering the fact that a first round talent is worth up to 1800 points (first overall pick) more than the first pick of the second round and as low as 350 points (last pick in first round) higher than the last pick in round 2, it seems there could be cases in which it would be to your advantage to trade out of round 1 and draft two or three second rounders for the value.  Of course, the elite players are likely to be gone, and some positions overwhelmingly suck after round 1 (traditionally, like QB or LT, for example), but if you need to find starters at positions like DT, G, LB, S, C, TE, RB, etc, there could be a time when you trade back for more starters.  I was surprised that the margin between rounds 1 and 2 was only 9%.    While I realize that some of you sofa scholars are thinking, "Well duh?  Trading back gives you more players." as you wipe the Cheetos off your shirt.  Not the point.  The point is you have to consider the draft,the needs (and the number of them), and you need to scout the second and third rounds like you do the first, the cap, and the long-term impact.  If you can find 2 players with a 49% chance of becoming a starter, are you better off than drafting one player who has a 58% chance in the long term? So if I traded away my first rounder for two second rounders (a trade most teams would make) regularly, when I got 10 second rounders (by trading 5 first rounders), 5 would be starters.  If I did not trade and kept my 5 first rounders, 3 would be starters.  Furthermore, their rookie contracts would be much cheaper than the 5 first rounders. 
    • These are the three deep throw attempts that Will Levis made in week 12. His first one is a beauty; Levis and Westbrook-Ikhine gets the safety to bite on a deep dig only to go over the top for the score. His second throw is another beauty: a crosser to Calvin Ridley reminiscent of Bryce to XL (though Ridley has noticeably more separation on his route). His third and final deep shot was an incompletion from his own endzone on 3rd & 14 with pressure coming down on him (to me, this seems like a solid throw).   Film Room Playlist NFL Pro-02.mp4 Film Room Playlist NFL Pro-01.mp4 Film Room Playlist NFL Pro.mp4 Film Room Playlist NFL Pro-01.mp4 Levis took half of the deep shots that Young did. The differences are: Ridley had much better separation than XL, which is why his deep crosser turned into a 63yd play since he was able to scamper for another 15+ after the catch. Westbrook-Ikhine holds on to his TD pass. Bryce had to throw one away to preserve time for a field goal. Bryce had two more throws that were incomplete due to the WR Are we really holding the three WR errors and clock management decision against Bryce in order to say that Will was better throwing deep in week 12? That's not passing the eye test nor is it confirmed by the data.
×
×
  • Create New...