Better tackler: Chris Harris or Richard Marshall?

[magnus]

maybe I'm reading them wrong, but sorted by the run at CB they have Gamble 14th best but Marshall (106) is behind Munnerlyn (88). They have Marshall with more tackles and less missed tackles, but they rate Gamble higher.

Then again they rate Moose better overall than Smith.

[Mr. Scot]

his overall rank on the site is 35th best overall with a 55.7 QB rating.

Thanks. I looked for the overall list in the forum but didn't find it.

[CarolinaPride5]

Harris... If it had to be a game saving tackle I'd hope Chris Harris would be the man there rather than Marshall.

[magnus]

just now saw that this stuff was on inside the Panthers. Fair enough.

Anyway, I think Harris' issues are just a matter of going for the hit/going for the FF. He does both well, and he's hauling ass to get to the line of scrimmage where Marshall's tackles are because he's backed off his man too far.

[brandon_87]

I think it's obvious marshall is a better tackeler but harris is the big hitter

[Jak Perez]

This is a pretty subjective statistic, particularly if you are going to compare positions. #2 and #3 WRs go down a lot easier than TEs. Also, there's a difference between plugging the gap against the run and chasing down guys you should be covering.

[Wither]

This is a pretty subjective statistic, particularly if you are going to compare positions. #2 and #3 WRs go down a lot easier than TEs. Also, there's a difference between plugging the gap against the run and chasing down guys you should be covering.

Nice (1st?) post.

The players have different roles, there is no use comparing them.

[Urrymonster]

Nice (1st?) post.

The players have different roles, there is no use comparing them.

If you looked at the source material the two players were not being directly compared.

Harris was compared amongst his peers at his position and came out the 7th worst.

Marshall was compared amongst his peers at his position and came out the 6th best.

What Scott was doing, was comparing the two players AFTER looking at how they perform relevant to the players at their respective positions. So whilst Marshall and Harris play in different positions and subsequently exposed to different situations, the comparison is still valid.

It's a bit like comparing a DE and DT with pressure generated. The DE 'should' always win, but it is how they perform relative to the rest of the players at their positions.

So, Marshall is one of the most consistent tacklers at cornerback, whereas Harris is one of the least consistent tacklers at safety.

[Wither]

If you looked at the source material the two players were not being directly compared.

Harris was compared amongst his peers at his position and came out the 7th worst.

Marshall was compared amongst his peers at his position and came out the 6th best.

What Scott was doing, was comparing the two players AFTER looking at how they perform relevant to the players at their respective positions. So whilst Marshall and Harris play in different positions and subsequently exposed to different situations, the comparison is still valid.

It's a bit like comparing a DE and DT with pressure generated. The DE 'should' always win, but it is how they perform relative to the rest of the players at their positions.

So, Marshall is one of the most consistent tacklers at cornerback, whereas Harris is one of the least consistent tacklers at safety.

I actually did look at the source material.

My point was that they can't be compared because they have different playing styles within their positions, hence the word "roles" and not "positions."

[Urrymonster]

I actually did look at the source material.

My point was that they can't be compared because they have different playing styles within their positions, hence the word "roles" and not "positions."

I know they play different roles. The article and what Scott posted was purely how each player was doing based on their position. So the only thing that was compared, was how they were doing in comparison to their positions. Marshall and Harris were NOT directly compared, so their different roles are meaningless in this context.

Harris missed 11 tackles and made 47. The best at his position was Yeremiah Bell, who made 90 tackles and missed just ONE.

[Jak Perez]

I know they play different roles. The article and what Scott posted was purely how each player was doing based on their position. So the only thing that was compared, was how they were doing in comparison to their positions. Marshall and Harris were NOT directly compared, so their different roles are meaningless in this context.

Harris missed 11 tackles and made 47. The best at his position was Yeremiah Bell, who made 90 tackles and missed just ONE.

I think more than anything we were commenting on the validity of the statistic relative to the question posed by the title of the thread.

[GreatPoupon]

really the same question applies to gross vs kalil.

with regard to position it only seems logical that a tackle (blocking DE's) give up more sacks than Center (double teaming DT's, blocking blitzing linebackers)