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Setting Realistic Expectations: Panthers 2010 & solving the riddle: 2013.(LONG)

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Pretty much, if Fox could have gotten back to the play-offs last year he would have probably gotten an extension. He lived and died with his aging veterans like a lot of coaches do.

I don't think that JR has his new coach picked out yet, if he does then none of us would ever know it. That would be violating the poo out of the Rooney Rule.

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Pretty much, if Fox could have gotten back to the play-offs last year he would have probably gotten an extension. He lived and died with his aging veterans like a lot of coaches do.

I don't think that JR has his new coach picked out yet, if he does then none of us would ever know it. That would be violating the poo out of the Rooney Rule.

Not if he's black ;) You know your stuff House.

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I don't think it would take 2 years after the lockout if it takes place to put us in a spot for a Superbowl. That's too long thanks to Richardson prepping the team this year. Whatever the new cap may be we will be far under with this team. So logistically it will be easy for the staff to build it. Figure out how much money you have and spend it.

You don't have to make room, you don't have to worry too much about trading.

If lockout I say 2013 expect superbowl.

With no lockout I expect 2012, but depending on if new staff changes at the end of this season or mid-season...2011 is not out of the question either. Fox could still agree to leave earlier.

You need to realize THIS year, is part of that process, only problem is Fox decided to stick around. It's a rebuilding process for the team, unfortunatelly not with the right staff. But if Richardson gave Fox the opportunity to go, who is to say the new coach isn't already picked and working out the logistics on the side as this season unfolds?

OK I hope so. We would need a bunch of things to fall into place but why not?

I doubt there is a handshake agreement with a new coach (even legal?) but agree the FO has a short list and a battle plan ready.

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yes he did

I don't think so. I don't think he played so bad that, in any other year, with any other team it would have resulted him in getting benched. He threw some bad picks, but the rest of the team made some bad mistakes that, had they made them we could have won those games and he would still have a job.

In other words his performance alone would have not been enough to cost him his job if we would have won those games. And his performance alone was not the only thing that resulted in us losing. Maybe the first game, but definitley not last week.

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I enjoyed the read. Great write up. I agree with most that you said, comes down to JR, the politics of the game kinda won out, and they've fielded a watered down product, that's what we're seeing week to week. Planning for the future.

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Interesting article which outlines the issues.

http://www.altiusdirectory.com/Sports/nfl-salaries.php

The NFLPA plans to ask the players on all 32 clubs to vote to authorize decertification when NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith visits each club on his annual fall tour of locker rooms, sources said. New Orleans Saints players have already voted to authorize decertification at their union meeting last week, a source said.

“We have started to hand out voting cards to players authorizing us pursuant to the CBA to take action with respect to the NFLPA’s bargaining status prior to the CBA’s expiration on March 3, 2011,” states a letter sent to players and obtained by SportsBusiness Journal. “The cards will allow us to maximize the protection of your interests and rights when the CBA expires.”

If the NFLPA were to decertify, it would, in effect, operate as a trade organization but cease to be a union. If the league then tried to lock out players, the NFLPA could sue the NFL under U.S. antitrust laws and contend the league was conducting a group boycott, which is illegal. It could not sue the NFL if it remained a union with collective-bargaining authority for its members, under the labor exemption to antitrust law.

The letter says decertification “does two things for us: First, it gives a very firm deadline to the NFL to reach a new CBA with us before the current one expires, and before we end our status as a union. Second, it allows us to file an antitrust challenge against the lockout they are likely to impose the day after expiration

If the union were to try to decertify, the league would likely sue the NFLPA, challenging the decertification as a “sham” and saying the NFLPA was still acting as a union but only filing to gain access to the antitrust laws. A source close to the league has told SportsBusiness Journal in the past that the NFL would have a strong case, because the NFLPA decertified in 1989, only to become a union again in 1993, after it won a jury trial in the Reggie White v. NFL case.

But the union has long contended that it has the right to decertify under the White settlement. That settlement was the basis for the current CBA, which was first agreed to in 1993 and has been extended several times.

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