Potential Head Coaches

[Brandon]

we change to a 3-4 say goodbye to 90% of the front 7

most notably beason/davis/anderson

We already play Anderson like a 3-4 LOLB...

People said the same things in Baltimore and Green Bay before switching over. I think it went okay. The thing we really need that we don't have is a nose tackle. CJ and Brayton are probably better suited as 3-4 DE's in a more penetrating style of 3-4, Davis would have little problem assimilating the ROLB position after putting on 5-10lbs which his frame could easily adjust to. Beason might be the only odd man out on the defense in a 3-4 switch but I wouldn't count him out.

[magnus]

And here I thought you were responding to my "Harbamanics" post

I can't think of a good name for the "Draft Luck" portion of the fanbase though. "Luckamaniacs" just doesn't work for me.

FYI: The King post was in response to some goofball on Twitter (http://twitter.com/vwesr). I have no idea who this kid is

a person might go as far as to say that this isn't the "next QB" thread. You hire Jim Harbaugh for Jim Harbaugh.

[magnus]

We already play Anderson like a 3-4 LOLB...

People said the same things in Baltimore and Green Bay before switching over. I think it went okay. The thing we really need that we don't have is a nose tackle. CJ and Brayton are probably better suited as 3-4 DE's in a more penetrating style of 3-4, Davis would have little problem assimilating the ROLB position after putting on 5-10lbs which his frame could easily adjust to. Beason might be the only odd man out on the defense in a 3-4 switch but I wouldn't count him out.

Davis is already physically maxed out. He doesn't need to be 250 and he's not going to take on offensive tackles every down. Physically being 250 doesn't make Davis into Ware anymore than Dante Rosario does.

Beason could physically play a 3-4, but not unlike him playing WLB this year, it's a waste of a talent and turns him into just another player. Which, if you're fine with that, and fine with letting some of our best talent go, and are willing to spend 2 years rebuilding a defense for reasons I can't honestly understand, then you get what you get.

[Mr. Scot]

a person might go as far as to say that this isn't the "next QB" thread. You hire Jim Harbaugh for Jim Harbaugh.

Granted. I'd hire Harbaugh regardless.

But with that said, if Harbaugh is the coach, and the Panthers have the #1 pick, how seriously would you take the idea of using that pick on anyone other than Andrew Luck?

I know you're not a fan of getting younger in the passing game, but can you really see a Harbaugh coached team taking anyone else?

[Bj-monster56]

I understand that alot of you really like 4-3 defense witch is fine in Carolina. The only Problem is does the Carolina panthers team that we have now fit the 4-3 defense. Based off my opinion No. The reason why is because our sacks leader on have 4.5 sacks this year second behind him is james anderson with 2.5. the 4-3 defense is a defense that the defensive line is the cause of the pressure. When you have no pressure its no use. Also you are ranked 24 in the league in stoping the run you must know something is not right.

Its fine that we run 4-3 but in our case a 3-4 defense would be better. We have to good MLB In beason and Connor. i know some people say that Beason want fit, but you have to realize that beason is a football player he will have some type of production in it. An he will also be in the Middle but it will just be with Connor thats all. I doubt Davis will be resign next year to injury prone i also think davis will be gone also. We have a first round pick in Everett brown. lets just be honest you know and i know he is not a hand in the dirt d-lineman. He has a great first step thats true but by him been so small OT's just eats him alive. Him playing in a 3-4 OLB pass rushing role he should do great.

Also we have No Nose Tackle and no 3Technique DE's. But to solve the nose tacle play there will be a guy in free agency name Big Shaun Rogers also Aubrayo Franklin. as For DE You have cullen jenkins, Shaun Ellis an alot more.Pick your choice.

I also have no problem with the 4-3 defense, but its going to take alot of pieces for it due to the fact that a need is DT an DE. Because Everett Brown will not fit. But just in case we stay 4-3 a couple of guys to look at Adrian Clayborn Iowa, Robert Quinn North Carolina. Also marcel Dareus DT/ DE Alabama.

[Dpantherman]

a 3-4 defense doesn't guarantee more sacks.

[Miaoww]

I understand that alot of you really like 4-3 defense witch is fine in Carolina. The only Problem is does the Carolina panthers team that we have now fit the 4-3 defense. Based off my opinion No. The reason why is because our sacks leader on have 4.5 sacks this year second behind him is james anderson with 2.5. the 4-3 defense is a defense that the defensive line is the cause of the pressure. When you have no pressure its no use. Also you are ranked 24 in the league in stoping the run you must know something is not right.

Its fine that we run 4-3 but in our case a 3-4 defense would be better. We have to good MLB In beason and Connor. i know some people say that Beason want fit, but you have to realize that beason is a football player he will have some type of production in it. An he will also be in the Middle but it will just be with Connor thats all. I doubt Davis will be resign next year to injury prone i also think davis will be gone also. We have a first round pick in Everett brown. lets just be honest you know and i know he is not a hand in the dirt d-lineman. He has a great first step thats true but by him been so small OT's just eats him alive. Him playing in a 3-4 OLB pass rushing role he should do great.

Also we have No Nose Tackle and no 3Technique DE's. But to solve the nose tacle play there will be a guy in free agency name Big Shaun Rogers also Aubrayo Franklin. as For DE You have cullen jenkins, Shaun Ellis an alot more.Pick your choice.

I also have no problem with the 4-3 defense, but its going to take alot of pieces for it due to the fact that a need is DT an DE. Because Everett Brown will not fit. But just in case we stay 4-3 a couple of guys to look at Adrian Clayborn Iowa, Robert Quinn North Carolina. Also marcel Dareus DT/ DE Alabama.

We need a DT that can collapse the pocket. Everyone else on this team fits the 4-3 D. You'd have to get rid of players like Anderson, Davis, Brown etc if you switched to the 3-4 cos they're either not big enough, or not athletic enough to play as OLBs in it.

[Bj-monster56]

No it doesnt guarantee more sacks but it gives you an attacking defense to send different personal to use to try to get more sacks. With the statement i wrote up top i was saying that I have no problem with the 4-3 defense. But i have a problem with us not useing the talent that we have in our defense Like connor who played good this season before he got hurt. An just a better way to use Everett Brown.

[magnus]

Granted. I'd hire Harbaugh regardless.

But with that said, if Harbaugh is the coach, and the Panthers have the #1 pick, how seriously would you take the idea of using that pick on anyone other than Andrew Luck?

I know you're not a fan of getting younger in the passing game, but can you really see a Harbaugh coached team taking anyone else?

absolutely. He's a fairly cocky quarterbacks guy. He's not more likely to hang his hat on one guy than take on a new challenge.

I also don't think with his 'love' for Pete Carroll that he's going to suddenly take up Pete's MO and try to get every Stanford player he can.

I mean, to an end what the new coach will do is relevant, but no one's talking about what Schottenheimer would do, or Dungy. The idea that you get Harbaugh to get Luck, or vice versa, it's already played out IMO.

[magnus]

I understand that alot of you really like 4-3 defense witch is fine in Carolina. The only Problem is does the Carolina panthers team that we have now fit the 4-3 defense.

the players drafted for, and that have been playing in, the current defense don't fit the current defense?

[mav1234]

harbaugh leaving stanford greatly increases the chance Luck comes out, though, so if you want Luck to come out, you do want Harbaugh to leave... be it for us or oterhwise...

but you're right... I think taking Luck is a choice you make that really doesn't depend a whole ton on who your new coach is. I think it is foolish to pass on him based on what we have seen so far from our QBs, but if by some strange chance Clausen rips the league apart over the next few weeks, we'd have a different situation (and we wouldn't have the #1 pick, lol).

[Bj-monster56]

We need a DT that can collapse the pocket. Everyone else on this team fits the 4-3 D. You'd have to get rid of players like Anderson, Davis, Brown etc if you switched to the 3-4 cos they're either not big enough, or not athletic enough to play as OLBs in it.

Well thats true in away an its not in another. Because brown just doesnt work in the 4-3 defense he is very undersized against the OT's he cant beat double teams with his hand in the dirt but by him standing up gives him an Advantage especially with a Quick first step that he has. Davis is injury prone an i doubt he will return to carolina next year due to the fact he will be a free agent. Anderson is also a free Agent.

But what will happen will be base on the coach. What ever he wants to do is up to him.

[Kevin Greene]

Ya'll can close this thread now.

Coincidence? I think not.

[Bj-monster56]

Lolz WOW...But its just isnt going to Happen. I seriously doubt.