Injury update: Williams misses practice, Otah and more....

[PantherFanForLife]

What does any of this have to do with Moore or Clausen?

Well if you read between the lines, since there is no update on Moore that means Clausen is starting.

[panthers55]

What the hell is wrong with Otah... I hope its the medical staff thats forcing him to do basically nothing. Hope its not a case of the lazy...

Recovery from a meniscus repair can be 3 or 4 months. Add that he is very large and they are being cautious it could conceivably take this long to recover. Someone on here who reports to know him said he is still having pain in it.

[CSReport]

Something tells me there's more going on there or he has something a little worse than a "sore knee".

Unless Fox gets waterboarded, we'll never know.

http://twitter.com/csreport

[PantherFanForLife]

Recovery from a meniscus repair can be 3 or 4 months. Add that he is very large and they are being cautious it could conceivably take this long to recover. Someone on here who reports to know him said he is still having pain in it.

They should really stop calling it a "sore knee". Kind of misleading.

We're getting close to that line where if he doesn't come back soon they will slap the IR label on him, no?

[Floppin]

Recovery from a meniscus repair can be 3 or 4 months. Add that he is very large and they are being cautious it could conceivably take this long to recover. Someone on here who reports to know him said he is still having pain in it.

I've seen you repeat this many times. So I'll just point out the facts for you.

What is the difference between partial meniscectomy and meniscal repair?

Depending on the type of tear, the piece of meniscus that is torn may be removed from the knee (partial meniscectomy) or repaired (meniscus repair). Whether or not a tear is repaired depends on the likelihood of the tear healing. If a tear occurs in the outer one-third of the meniscus (peripheral tear), there is usually adequate blood supply for the tear to heal if fixed. However, tears in the inner two-thirds (where most tears occur) have no blood supply, and will not heal with repair. Therefore, the torn piece needs to be removed. Every effort is made to try and repair a tear that may heal. If the tear is repaired the overall recovery time is increased because I have to protect that repair.

When can I return to sports or full duty at work?

Your return to your desired activity level will depend on the extent of damage and the procedure performed on your knee. In general, you will be allowed to return to sports in 4-8 weeks after surgery. You must have good motion, strength, and control of your knee. How quickly you return depends on several factors, including: 1) your own rate of healing; 2) the damage found at surgery; 3) if you have any complications; 4) how well you follow the post-operative instructions; 5) how hard you work in rehabilitation.

http://www.toc-stl.com/info/meniscus.htm

[Jangler]

Air Moore is ready for take off!

[OneBadassCat]

I hope Williams will be ready. I think Goodson can do a good job though. Williams is the only RB we have that can pull 20 yd runs out of his ass, so he's pretty important... especially if our offensive line doesn't step up.

[Jangler]

I've seen you repeat this many times. So I'll just point out the facts for you.

What is the difference between partial meniscectomy and meniscal repair?

Depending on the type of tear, the piece of meniscus that is torn may be removed from the knee (partial meniscectomy) or repaired (meniscus repair). Whether or not a tear is repaired depends on the likelihood of the tear healing. If a tear occurs in the outer one-third of the meniscus (peripheral tear), there is usually adequate blood supply for the tear to heal if fixed. However, tears in the inner two-thirds (where most tears occur) have no blood supply, and will not heal with repair. Therefore, the torn piece needs to be removed. Every effort is made to try and repair a tear that may heal. If the tear is repaired the overall recovery time is increased because I have to protect that repair.

When can I return to sports or full duty at work?

Your return to your desired activity level will depend on the extent of damage and the procedure performed on your knee. In general, you will be allowed to return to sports in 4-8 weeks after surgery. You must have good motion, strength, and control of your knee. How quickly you return depends on several factors, including: 1) your own rate of healing; 2) the damage found at surgery; 3) if you have any complications; 4) how well you follow the post-operative instructions; 5) how hard you work in rehabilitation.

http://www.toc-stl.com/info/meniscus.htm

I like #1 instead. You have to take into account everybody heals differently. So I would go with something else is wrong with him or it is worse than what we have been told. Either way 2010 is Otahless.

[Floppin]

I like #1 instead. You have to take into account everybody heals differently. So I would go with something else is wrong with him or it is worse than what we have been told. Either way 2010 is Otahless.

Yeah, it could be anything, but there have been rumors in the past about poor work ethic with rehabilitations from Otah. So while there may be other contributing factors, it's safe to assume his work ethic may be part of it.

Especially considering that everything the team said after the surgery and in preseason led us to believe he would be back by now.

[Jangler]

We need Vinny to get his ass in gear!

[Paintballr]

Why has a reporter not asked a more serious question about Otah?

[panthers55]

I've seen you repeat this many times. So I'll just point out the facts for you.

What is the difference between partial meniscectomy and meniscal repair?

Depending on the type of tear, the piece of meniscus that is torn may be removed from the knee (partial meniscectomy) or repaired (meniscus repair). Whether or not a tear is repaired depends on the likelihood of the tear healing. If a tear occurs in the outer one-third of the meniscus (peripheral tear), there is usually adequate blood supply for the tear to heal if fixed. However, tears in the inner two-thirds (where most tears occur) have no blood supply, and will not heal with repair. Therefore, the torn piece needs to be removed. Every effort is made to try and repair a tear that may heal. If the tear is repaired the overall recovery time is increased because I have to protect that repair.

When can I return to sports or full duty at work?

Your return to your desired activity level will depend on the extent of damage and the procedure performed on your knee. In general, you will be allowed to return to sports in 4-8 weeks after surgery. You must have good motion, strength, and control of your knee. How quickly you return depends on several factors, including: 1) your own rate of healing; 2) the damage found at surgery; 3) if you have any complications; 4) how well you follow the post-operative instructions; 5) how hard you work in rehabilitation.

http://www.toc-stl.com/info/meniscus.htm

Here is another source which puts the rehab at much longer from an orthopedic site. Seems your source is grossly underestimating rehab particularly for a professional athlete. When I say something you can guarantee I have checked the facts.

The three early postoperative rehabilitation goals are; get the knee out fully straight, decrease swelling, and regain quadriceps muscle control. Patients are encouraged to do straight leg raises in the brace immediately after surgery. The brace is used to walk with the knee in extension for six weeks. Range of motion is generally started soon after surgery from 0-90 degrees, without any weight-bearing during motion. The brace is unlocked at six weeks and weaned off when good quadriceps control is demonstrated. Motion is increased as tolerated at six weeks, but deep squats are avoided until 12 weeks. Low impact type activities such as swimming and exercise machines are encouraged at 12 weeks, with advancement to cutting and pivoting sports generally at 16 weeks. The assistance of a physical therapist is very helpful in achieving a rapid full recovery.

Return to sports requires the ability to perform sports specific drills at competition speed. Depending on the rigors of the sport, the preoperative condition, associated injuries, and other individual factors, return to a chosen sport generally takes four to five months. Rehabilitation should continue until the patient’s athletic goals are achieved

http://www.orthop.washington.edu/uw/tabID__3374/print__full/ItemID__286/mid__0/Articles/Default.aspx

[panthers55]

Yeah, it could be anything, but there have been rumors in the past about poor work ethic with rehabilitations from Otah. So while there may be other contributing factors, it's safe to assume his work ethic may be part of it.

Especially considering that everything the team said after the surgery and in preseason led us to believe he would be back by now.

Rehab for a professional athlete can easily take 4 or 5 months like my orthopedic article points outs. Where is the link to these supposed poor work ethic rumors?

[PantherFanForLife]

Rehab for a professional athlete can easily take 4 or 5 months like my orthopedic article points outs. Where is the link to these supposed poor work ethic rumors?

I don't really believe that either. I'm thinking they found out later it's more serious than they wanna say it is and thus taking a very long time(maybe the surgery didn't go as good or something wrong in the rehab process)

or there's something else .....money related maybe? Was he up for a contract re-negotiation or something like that? Or perhaps personal problems/family issues?

The reason I think that is if they really did know that his injury would take 4-5 months like you say, they would have probably just IR-ed him this year.