NFL Live just sold me on VY

[Boltergeist]

That, plus one of the things you sign a veteran for is his ability to teach some tips and tricks to the newer guys. What's Young going to teach them? The proper way to throw your pads in the stands, blow off your teammates and create a suicide drama? :frown2:

The team that hired his old quarterback coach has already said they don't want him. What makes people think we will?

You forgot shirtless picture posing.

[top dawg]

Yes, people can change. That doesn't mean it'd be smart to give a guy like Dimitrius Underwood another chance.

We've already got one question mark at the QB spot in Clausen. Only an idiot sets up a contingency plan for one question mark using another question mark. Rivera is not an idiot.

That, plus one of the things you sign a veteran for is his ability to teach some tips and tricks to the newer guys. What's Young going to teach them? The proper way to throw your pads in the stands, blow off your teammates and create a suicide drama? :frown2:

The team that hired his old quarterback coach has already said they don't want him. What makes people think we will?

I don't necessarily think we should get VY, Mr. Scot, due to our particular situation, but if the best way that we can get a QB in here to provide adequate competition for Clausen and give us a better opportunity to win is via trade or free agency, then we should give serious consideration to all candidates. IMO VY is not so bad or "crazy" that he should be summarily dismissed as a candidate to be a starting QB in the NFL, especially when his stats say he may be worthy of the position.

Michael Vick is seemingly not the monster that many people say he is, but that's debatable so I will stick to football. Many people on here said Vick was garbage. They said he couldn't be a pocket passer, blah blah blah, but he pretty much proved them wrong this season (yes he did, and it's not really arguable). Vick was a bad throw away from beating the Packers, and has apparently morphed into one of the most complete QBs in the league while spending time in the clink. Vince Young could develop into that type of QB with teaching, including someone to stay in his head and help him exorcise some of his demons.

If one can throw Volek out there as a serious prospect (who really hasn't done anything of note while in the NFL), then it would seem to me that the Youngs and McNabbs would at least be in the conversation. Unless someone blows up the combine with their knowledge and skill at the position, IMO FA or a trade is probably going to be our best bet. And that's what this is: a bet! Why wouldn't you at least consider to take a bet on the guy who has shown that he can succeed at the job, and who probably is the only one who has a real opportunity to be a franchise type of QB? We are only talking as a stopgap measure I assume, nothing longterm. But, why not take a relatively inexpensive bet on the guy who could be a longterm answer?

This is my take, and I am sticking to it.

[chef17]

I don't necessarily think we should get VY, Mr. Scot, due to our particular situation, but if the best way that we can get a QB in here to provide adequate competition for Clausen and give us a better opportunity to win is via trade or free agency, then we should give serious consideration to all candidates. IMO VY is not so bad or "crazy" that he should be summarily dismissed as a candidate to be a starting QB in the NFL, especially when his stats say he may be worthy of the position.

Michael Vick is seemingly not the monster that many people say he is, but that's debatable so I will stick to football. Many people on here said Vick was garbage. They said he couldn't be a pocket passer, blah blah blah, but he pretty much proved them wrong this season (yes he did, and it's not really arguable). Vick was a bad throw away from beating the Packers, and has apparently morphed into one of the most complete QBs in the league while spending time in the clink. Vince Young could develop into that type of QB with teaching, including someone to stay in his head and help him exorcise some of his demons.

If one can throw Volek out there as a serious prospect (who really hasn't done anything of note while in the NFL), then it would seem to me that the Youngs and McNabbs would at least be in the conversation. Unless someone blows up the combine with their knowledge and skill at the position, IMO FA or a trade is probably going to be our best bet. And that's what this is: a bet! Why wouldn't you at least consider to take a bet on the guy who has shown that he can succeed at the job, and who probably is the only one who has a real opportunity to be a franchise type of QB? We are only talking as a stopgap measure I assume, nothing longterm. But, why not take a relatively inexpensive bet on the guy who could be a longterm answer?

This is my take, and I am sticking to it.

Young calls himself an elite QB. Elite QB aren't "relatively inexpensive" in any way.

[Happy Panther]

He should be on our list. You bring him in and evaluate him. Maybe he's loopy and maybe not. The mainstream media will always go out of their way to make a story.

He's a winner.

Knowing our FO, the only veteran QBs will be inexpensive career backups. Jerry would tell you he doesn't even know who Vince Young is while ogling the semi-hot reporter in the front row.

[Happy Panther]

if we can get him for the right price, we definitely should.

$13m

[top dawg]

Young calls himself an elite QB. Elite QB aren't "relatively inexpensive" in any way.

Unless Young is just stupid, and has an even more "stupider" agent, then he will have to come to the realization that he must take what he can get. He, and perhaps his mama, are the only ones that probably think that he's an elite QB, but the NFL is a market driven business, and Young's stock ain't on an elite QB level. Unless he is daft, he knows he will have to show some consistent play as an elite QB to get elite QB money.

Of course if Bud Adams doesn't release him, like he said, it's all for naught anyway.

[jarhead]

From what I am hearing he may get a much better contract than I originally thought.If our coaches interview him and feel he is salvagible and does not want alot of money I say risk it considering our qb situation.It could not be worse than status quo.No doubt he lacks maturity and it would take a special coach/player relationship for him to be sucessiful.Having said that I understand all the opposition in bringing him in but there are not alot of options.His choice of words in describing himself as elite is unfortunate and demonstrates his lack of maturity but there are plenty of players big Ben included that have shown bad judgement but have learned from it and turned into productive players.Is he still sliding or has he reached bottom is the big question.Kerry Collins is yet another example.