Cam Character Issue?

[CarolinaKat]

Didn't they say Clausen had issues too. That he was real cocky and what not. Clausen went stress crazy when those big guys actually started chasing him. I don't think Newton would have that same problem.

[MadHatter]

something to think about really???????????????????????????????????????????????

we only scored one TD last year and this guy just goes out and scores....lets get cam in here now

I think the issue has more to do with the fact that his coach told him to take a knee and he did not follow directions...if the story is true.

Not a BIG deal, but something that coaches will look at.

[Catalyst]

A source close to Cam Newton's barber's third cousin has informed me that Cam is a crackhead, meth user, has fathered 27 illegitimate children with 27 different hookers, and likes to kick kittens like field goals twice a day.

That evil bastard.

[TheRealDeal]

Vick had some busted rib's at the end of the year, QB's are gonna get hurt, but QB's that run more in the NFL tend to get hurt more. But Vick was a better pocket passer in Philly than he ever was in Atl. That show's you they can be coached out of that habbit.

Are you willing to wait 10 years before Cam has a good passing season and still gets shut down in the first round?

Look at Vick's numbers after defenses got re acclimated to him this year.

[monstercat]

Are you willing to wait 10 years before Cam has a good passing season and still gets shut down in the first round?

Look at Vick's numbers after defenses got re acclimated to him this year.

Are you assuming that Cam won't work hard from the start? It's well documented that Vick did not go out of his way to work on his craft. Who knows, he might have won a Super Bowl if he had started out with a little more humility and realized that there was more to the position of QB than just being the best athlete on the field.

[rayzor]

Are you willing to wait 10 years before Cam has a good passing season and still gets shut down in the first round?

Look at Vick's numbers after defenses got re acclimated to him this year.

i wouldn't worry about that. newton's work ethich and coachability is 1000x than vicks was right up until he went to prison.

not sure if this little fact has sunk into yours and everyone else's heads yet, but...

cam newton ≠ mike vick

cam newton ≠ vince young

cam newton ≠ jamarcus russel

cam newton ≠ The Golden Calf of Bristol

quit getting them confused.

[TheRealDeal]

i wouldn't worry about that. newton's work ethich and coachability is 1000x than vicks was right up until he went to prison.

not sure if this little fact has sunk into yours and everyone else's heads yet, but...

cam newton ≠ mike vick

cam newton ≠ vince young

cam newton ≠ jamarcus russel

cam newton ≠ The Golden Calf of Bristol

quit getting them confused.

I wasn't comparing them. So it's okay for someone else to use him and Vick as a positive comparison but when some negativity comes out of it all the nuthuggers come out and say they are not the same?

He used Vick as an example of being able to transition from runner to passer. I said it took 10 years. No more, no less.

[rayzor]

I wasn't comparing them. So it's okay for someone else to use him and Vick as a positive comparison but when some negativity comes out of it all the nuthuggers come out and say they are not the same?

He used Vick as an example of being able to transition from runner to passer. I said it took 10 years. No more, no less.

the assumption by most is that you can expect the same thing from any "running QB". i don't think that is true, nor do i agree with the designation of a running QB, esp. where newton is concerned. he's a lot more than that.

i don't like comparing him with vick, unless it is the eagles version, but even then, the two are very different and will have much different futures in the league. newton's head is on a lot straighter and is coming with a much better work ethic and desire to learn than vick did.

[TheRealDeal]

i don't like comparing him with vick, unless it is the eagles version, but even then, the two are very different and will have much different futures in the league. newton's head is on a lot straighter and is coming with a much better work ethic and desire to learn than vick did.

I don't really remember but did anyone question Vick's work ethic and desire before the draft or was it only after he admitted to being lazy?

Seems weird we've made the determination that Cam obviously has a better work ethic because he hired a coach and did a media workout but Vick and Russell clearly didn't.

Didn't Russell look good and have a good work ethic before getting his money? Didn't Vick only become lazy after he got his money?

What's the common denominator? Once the money comes, that's what determines the work ethic and the desire. I guess you could say Cam has shown that once he gets a little money in his pocket he continues to play well. But then again, working hard with 180,000 in your pocket is different than working hard with 30,000,000 in your pocket.

:p

[rayzor]

I don't really remember but did anyone question Vick's work ethic and desire before the draft or was it only after he admitted to being lazy?

Seems weird we've made the determination that Cam obviously has a better work ethic because he hired a coach and did a media workout but Vick and Russell clearly didn't.

Didn't Russell look good and have a good work ethic before getting his money? Didn't Vick only become lazy after he got his money?

What's the common denominator? Once the money comes, that's what determines the work ethic and the desire. I guess you could say Cam has shown that once he gets a little money in his pocket he continues to play well. But then again, working hard with 180,000 in your pocket is different than working hard with 30,000,000 in your pocket.

:p

work ethic was never vick's nor russell's strong points. in fact that was one of russell's strongest negative points. with both, teams, scouts, and draftniks were willing to overlook work ethic because of measurables, having a big arm and huge frame. they all thought the rest could be coached, without actually considering what work ethic and passion for getting better they were going to be coming into the league with. same with ryan leaf. with vick it was all about his being a dual threat QB, with emphasis on his big arm and running ability. no one thought to check and see if he was a student of the game or if he was actually working on becoming a better passer. in atlanta it became incredibly apparent that he didn't want to have anything to do with changing. he wanted to do his own thing. had people actually looked into him much before, they would have seen it.

with newton, for all who are really paying attention and who haven't gotten a closed mind about him early, ruling him out and sticking him into that "running QB" pigeon hole, it is incredilbly apparent that he has a very strong work ethic since being at blinn college and that he is really putting in time with some good QB coaches and mentors who are helping him learn what he can learn (in the offseason) about becoming a better pro passer.

vick was a self centered punk as a QB in atlanta. same with russell. newton has much more in the way of intangibles compared to either one of those guys.

i really don't think there is really a comparison between them.

you are right, we will see a lot more when money hits, but i fully believe that newton will far surpass what many doubters believe he will accomplish.

[ammofan]

Wow yall need to get a life if you are hating on Cam for something like that. We as Panther fans should LOVE a guy who wants to score TD's.

Sports are supposed to be fun, and Im sure Cam being the kid he is, was having fun and wanted to score a TD like all of us would have. Who cares really...?

[TheRealDeal]

Maybe he's working so hard and hiring all those people and putting on publicity stunts because he wants to be #1 and get #1 money while the other two had the actual skillset to go #1 and didn't have to do much in terms of publicity?

He's trying to hype himself there to get the money while the others had the tools to put them there, could that be the case?

[monstercat]

God forbid a football player should want to get drafted high and make some money for himself. That's pure evil.

[TheRealDeal]

God forbid a football player should want to get drafted high and make some money for himself. That's pure evil.

I agree.

Point stands that he doesn't have the talent that those guys did that's why we see his "work ethic" when we didn't see theirs.

What you call work ethic, I call publicity stunt.

;)