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Panthers signing Derek Anderson


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Just because you know the offense does not mean your good at protections. If you watched the games you could clearly see him calling out protection schemes and telling the line what the defense was doing. Thats why the line sucked under Moore/Clausen because Delhomme was not there to call it out for them. After that adjustment though he was horrible with progression reads and thats why the INTs came in boat loads. His progression reads just go worse and worse as he became older.

there is some truth to that. Jake knew what to do....and he was also a master at when to audible and to what.

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If that's the case, why dont they just release Clausen???

Ego.....Clausen/Pike were both Hurney picks and drafted neither for Fox or Rivera. Now he has 2 QBs that didn't fit Fox and don't fit Rivera. He made a mistake drafting them.....and Carolina has proven they will not end a relationship w/ a mistake quickly.

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The definition of 'mentor' is debateable therefore its open for debate if Cam even needs a 'mentor' or if Derek Anderson is a 'mentor'.

But, its undeniable that having someone that knows the offense makes teaching the offense easier.

Derek Anderson, while everyone acknowledges isn't a great QB, he did play well in this offense under this coach.

I don't see what's not like about this signing.

People are judging the decision based on the perception of Derek Anderson and not how/why he fits in to this specific situation.

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Ego.....Clausen/Pike were both Hurney picks and drafted neither for Fox or Rivera. Now he has 2 QBs that didn't fit Fox and don't fit Rivera. He made a mistake drafting them.....and Carolina has proven they will not end a relationship w/ a mistake quickly.

so ego is why you have a guy who i am sure a team would trade for still on the roster?? doesnt make sense in my book, if you dont think he has anything let him go to another team.

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John Fox made winning QBs out of average QBs.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Thanks for the good laugh!

Steve Smith and an aggressive ground game made an average QB in Jake Delhomme a winner. Fox just sat back and called the same 4 plays (run run pass punt) and chewed a lot of gum. About 50.7 percent of the time, this worked out. The other 49.3 percent, it didn't. Which is why we have a new coach.

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I don't see what's not like about this signing.

People are judging the decision based on the perception of Derek Anderson and not how/why he fits in to this specific situation.

what not to like, if Anderson starts, that's what's not to like. there's a reason he's not starting and why John Skelton beat him out.

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so ego is why you have a guy who i am sure a team would trade for still on the roster?? doesnt make sense in my book, if you dont think he has anything let him go to another team.

Yes, people have trouble admitting quickly to obvious mistakes. Carolina has in the past.

The 2010 draft of 2 QBs was a mistake. Neither were drafted for Fox or Rivera.....and that is why neither have the skill set for either offense.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

:smilielol5:

Thanks for the good laugh!

Steve Smith and an aggressive ground game made an average QB in Jake Delhomme a winner. Fox just sat back and called the same 4 plays (run run pass punt) and chewed a lot of gum. About 50.7 percent of the time, this worked out. The other 49.3 percent, it didn't. Which is why we have a new coach.

lol, you diss my point, then you make it....

I didn't say Fox's system won championships....i said it allowed for average QBs to win and find success. Jake and Moore being examples.

Clausen couldn't do basics of it and caused it to implode. Carr is another example. Both play the game similar and with a mindset unlike the successful ones under Fox.

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lol, you diss my point, then you make it....

No I didn't.

I didn't say Fox's system won championships....i said it allowed for average QBs to win and find success. Jake and Moore being examples.

Jake had success. That's it. Once people figured out to attack our run game and double cover Smith, it was over though.

You think Moore had success? Uh... no... else he wouldn't have been benched by a Lame Duck Fox, and ultimately released by Rivera. You don't release successful QBs.

Clausen couldn't do basics of it and caused it to implode. Carr is another example. Both play the game similar and with a mindset unlike the successful ones under Fox.

So Moore "has success", yet was benched by Fox, but Clausen can't claim the same bad coaching?

John Fox's comments when he was fired was "This isn't surprising, we've known this was happening for two years."

Carr started 4 games because of an injured Delhomme. His issues started in Houston, having been shell-shocked by taking a league high number of sacks for a few years.

Clausen isn't a great QB. I don't think he'll ever be a starter. He COULD become a decent backup.

He WAS a rookie in a lame duck scenario, and if you don't acknowledge that will have a negative impact on his play, you're just stupid.

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Clausen looked rough, but I'd like to see a qb that wouldn't look bad in a situation like that. Where it seemed opposing defenses knew what plays we were going to run before we ran them, due to how predictable Fox/Davidson were last season.

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