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Good article on Cam and his affect on the game

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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8234efd7/article/newtons-success-in-nfl-bodes-well-for-baylor-qb-griffin?module=HP11_content_stream

"In 1998, Peyton Manning was as safe and pro-ready a quarterback prospect as they come. In 2011, Cam Newton was seen as a spectacular athlete, but a risk because he was raw at the position.

Both started in Week 1 as rookies, Newton with a truncated offseason. Their respective numbers through six weeks …

MANNING (1998): 113-210 (53.8 percent), 1,346 yards, 6 TD, 14 INT

NEWTON (2011): 134-229 (58.5 percent), 1,847 yards, 7 TD, 9 INT

So Newton threw more, for a higher completion percentage, more yards, more touchdowns and fewer interceptions than Manning. Both players' teams were 1-5 at that juncture."

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Somebody compare Cam through six weeks vs Manning last year through 6 weeks.

Please

Yeah, cause that would prove that a seasoned, MVP, Super Bowl winning QB is better than a rookie. Totally sound argument. You nailed it, bro.

But why not.

Manning through 6 games last season:

Comp %: 67.75

Yards: 1,916

TD/INT ratio: 13-2

So, really, Newton isn't THAT far behind Manning in TODAY'S NFL. Obviously, the TD/INT ratio is way off, but that is to be expected. In terms of yardage and completion %, Cam looks like he could get to a Peyton-type of level sooner rather than later.

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Yeah, cause that would prove that a seasoned, MVP, Super Bowl winning QB is better than a rookie. Totally sound argument. You nailed it, bro.

ffs, :rolleyes:

Takes out the old rules vs new rules debate, bro.

Anyway, they both passed for about 1800 yards, Manning 2010, Cam 2011. See Bro, you totally missed my meaning.

Anyway, Manning has a huge advantage in the TD/INT ratio but you'd have to expect that.

However, Cam has run for 6 rushing TDs, something Peyton could never do.

All considered, Cam is doing a hellova job.

Bro.

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ffs, :rolleyes:

Takes out the old rules vs new rules debate, bro.

Anyway, they both passed for about 1800 yards, Manning 2010, Cam 2011. See Bro, you totally missed my meaning.

Anyway, Manning has a huge advantage in the TD/INT ratio but you'd have to expect that.

However, Cam has run for 6 rushing TDs, something Peyton could never do.

All considered, Cam is doing a hellove job.

Bro.

Oh, well then we agree. lol I misinterpreted what you said. It's late for me. I wrote an 8 page paper. I'm delirious. Forgive me.

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Also, look at it this way, in regards to Peyton last year through 6 vs Cam this year through 6. Since we have to account for Cam's running ability and his production there, let's look at total TD/TO ratio for Cam as an individual.

After Atlanta, he's sitting at 14-9. Now, let's think here. The first pick was just a tremendous play by the linebacker. 9 times out of 10, that is a ball that isn't tipped. Had Cam held it 1 second later, the linebacker would have been cleared due to the TE coverage he had, and it is a TD. So, let's drop that. Then, the screen pick was a freak play. 9 out of 10, that is either a missed bat down or just a bat down. Take that out. Last pick was a garbage time, meaningless INT. Take that out. Now, you're looking at 14-6. Not too shabby, in comparison to Peyton's 13-2 last season.

I know, it's all a matter of what MIGHT have been, but Cam's picks vs Atlanta really were not his fault. I think we all know that. Hell, had Steve had time to plant his feet, he out-jumps the DB for that first pick and it is a TD. Had a lineman got a hat on the fatass on the screen INT, that never happens. The last one, had we not dug ourselves in a hole, would have never happened, since it was clear by the way it was thrown that Cam said "fug it" and just threw up a jump ball.

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