BCS NCG: Bama vs LSU

[C47]

Not what I said and you know it as well as I do. Keep cowering from the facts, bro.

What facts have you used? You've stated over and over again that Alabama and LSU are without a doubt the two best teams in the nation.....there is absolutely no way to know that if they don't have to play another deserving team like OSU. Like I said, I never once said they weren't great teams, they are. But that doesn't mean OSU couldn't beat them, which is exactly what you're claiming could never happen, that's not a fact BRO, that's an opinion.....

[Katscratchsoldr]

I think it can be best to say we may know is OSU could have beaten LSU or BAMA but I do know the most DESERVING teams got to play last night.

[GSQUARED]

Only fact anyone needs to know is Alabama is the national champs! Love it and embrace it! Roll Tide! /thread

[C47]

Only fact anyone needs to know is Alabama is the national champs! Love it and embrace it! Roll Tide! /thread

I can live with that, and don't dispute their championship. What I can't live with is people claiming they know for a fact how a game that has never been played would go down.....

Glad Saban won and not Miles to be completely honest.....congrats Bama fans on the title......

[Cat'sGrowl]

What facts have you used? You've stated over and over again that Alabama and LSU are without a doubt the two best teams in the nation.....there is absolutely no way to know that if they don't have to play another deserving team like OSU. Like I said' date=' I never once said they weren't great teams, they are. But that doesn't mean OSU couldn't beat them, which is exactly what your claiming could never happen, that's not a fact BRO, that's an opinion.....[/quote']

I don't know if you are too stupid to not understand it or if you just don't want to because you haven't devised some stupid argument to counter it yet.

As it has been said, over and over and over and over again, within the last five pages of this thread. This has nothing to do with the BCS. Absolutely nothing.

Nobody is saying that they like the system. What is being said is that the system worked last night. The two best teams played, and only an annoying minority who can't stand when people don't like their teams are the only ones who expected a playoff to be instituted midseason to appease them.

Is the system broken? I won't even give you an answer to that-because it's irrelevant.

But as long the system is the way it is now, the experts are forced to pick the two best teams and have them play for a national title. Last night's game proved they got it right this year.

You certainly could not have taken LSU out of the game, they were undefeated, they were the best team in the nation. There isn't two teams in the nation better than they are, they are that good. It isn't about numbers and rankings and all the other crap you are using to perpetuate your hopeless argument-it's about professionals looking at the teams and recognizing that they are superior.

There is only one this season that has proved they are better-I'm sure I don't have to tell you who that is. The two best teams played last night.

Can anything happen any given day? Yes. But, let me emphasize so I don't have to hear the same stupid argument which has already been dispelled so many times in this thread-The system doesn't work that way right now and it wasn't going to be changed midseason to make sure you were happy

I challenge you to make one argument that doesn't revolve around that tired line "but we'll never know for sure!!" because the BCS does not work that way.

Some times the system works, some times it does not. They got lucky and it worked last night because:

It's amazing that I have to continue to piece this together for you. That I have to make sure things stay fresh in your mind so you won't forget. I feel like I'm babysitting. Would you like some goldfish?

[GSQUARED]

Anybody can win on any given day, but the system played out as it was set up to. This argument happens just about every year, there probably will be some re-structuring after this year.

[Cat'sGrowl]

Anybody can win on any given day, but the system played out as it was set up to. This argument happens just about every year, there probably will be some re-structuring after this year.

Would you really bet anything on this? Not after the system worked itself out.

Edited for accuracy.

[C47]

College football, where championships are decided by the eyeball test.....still 0 facts in anything you've stated to show that without a doubt OSU couldn't be the better team then either Bama or LSU on any given night....you can harp about what experts say about their personnel all you want, but that doesn't mean jack poo when the game actually starts. If it did, the Steelers would be in the playoffs still....no one is asking for the system to be changed midseason, we're saying that there's no way to know that Bama or LSU are the best team because they haven't had to play the other teams who deserved a shot. You know, kind of like when you said there's no way to know if USC was a good team after only playing one quality opponent....you can't have it both ways......

I don't have to make an argument about anything not pertaining to never knowing for sure, because that's exactly what I'm arguing. You stated last night that OSU would not beat either team, that's not a fact by any stretch of the imagination. That's an opinion.....

[Cat'sGrowl]

College football' date=' where championships are decided by the eyeball test.....still 0 facts in anything you've stated to show that without a doubt OSU couldn't be the better team then either Bama or LSU on any given night....you can harp about what experts say about their personnel all you want, but that doesn't mean jack poo when the game actually starts. If it did, the Steelers would be in the playoffs still....no one is asking for the system to be changed midseason, we're saying that there's no way to know that Bama or LSU are the best team because they haven't had to play the other teams who deserved a shot. You know, kind of like when you said there's no way to know if USC was a good team after only playing one quality opponent....you can't have it both ways......[/quote']

Ah yes, exactly as I predicted. I've a great track record here on the Huddle when making predictions. Looks like my win percentage just went up.

[C47]

I really like how you seem to have some personal problem with me, it's quite amusing.....carry on...

[Cat'sGrowl]

Nothing you have said-nothing has made any argument that LSU and Alabama shouldn't of been in the NCG.

[C47]

Nothing you have said-nothing has made any argument that LSU and Alabama shouldn't of been in the NCG.

I never said they didn't deserve to be there either, I said that the game was pathetic and in my opinion a high powered offense with good to great qb play like OSU's could have given either defense trouble.....

[Cat'sGrowl]

I never said they didn't deserve to be there either' date=' I said that the game was pathetic and in my opinion a high powered offense with good to great qb play like OSU's could have given either defense trouble.....[/quote']

And Trent Richardson could have ran quite well against OSU, stranding Okie St's offense on the sideline.

Okie St. certainly wouldn't have shut down LSU like Alabama did.

I think a few key things are going on here:

A. You're using offense as a measure of great teams. You look at LSU and Alabama's offense and assumed similar results would have happened had they played OkSt. It wouldn't have. Both teams have good offenses. Which leads me to point two..

B. You're not factoring just how good those two defenses are-frankly they both may be one and two in comparison to any team in the last ten years. Bearing in mind that both teams have good offenses, these two defenses had their way with the opposing offenses last night. Defensive players were swarming on every single play. That certainly would not have come from Ok St.

[C47]

I never once said OSU would shut down LSU or Alabama, what I said was an offense with the explosive playmakers that OSU has could potentially give either defense some trouble. Obviously Alabama's running game would look better against the Pokes, and OSU would have to pick and choose their spots against an excellent Tide defense, but Brandon Weeden also wouldn't miss wide open receivers like JJ did. Just because you (or anyone else for that matter) state that OSU couldn't have beat Alabama doesn't mean it's a fact, or for that matter accurate....would Alabama give OSU all they could handle and maybe more, perhaps. But I also think Justin Blackmon would be a matchup nightmare for Dre Kirkpatrick. There's no way to know for sure beacause it never did, and never will happen. That's all I'm arguing, not that either team didn't deserve to be there, just that there's no way to claim it as a fact that either would have beat OSU or OSU would have beat either of them....