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So I tune into talk radio a few minutes ago...

Marguide

By Marguide,
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Marguide

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...and all they are talking about is Cam Newton. The same thing happened earlier today when I watched NFL network.

Somebody please explain to me why Hurney gets fired, and all they talk about is Cam Newton? Please, because I don't get it.

What am I missing?

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jtnc

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he's my QB and I love him but..................

He needs to grow up.

Look out when he gets it!

Grow up how? What the fug are you talking about? All he said is that something needs to change and he isn't the OC WHICH IS TRUE. They wanted to him to stop "moping" in his games and press conferences and he did. Now they want him to smile and say everything is OM at 1-5.

The sports media has an agenda just like any news other news outlet.

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This forum is going the way of sports radio. I don't think I've ever seen the trolling this bad.

Zod rathers views than banning trolls and keeping this forum on topic, sad but true. Not only is our team at the bottom of the NFL, but this forum has easily become one of the worst sports forum on the net.

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A lot of these big market analysts simply don't know enough about our team to have a valid opinion. It's fine for JA Adande to give Dwight Howard and Matt Barkley reach-arounds in LA, but we find out how much he knows about our market when he goes on Around The Horn saying "Cam needs to step up and take the blame and accept responsibility and criticize his own play." It's almost as if he has no idea that Cam said the EXACT same thing every week before this one.

The bottom line is 90% of NFL fans don't know/care who Marty Hurney is and if a show First Take did a segment on Hurney's questionable moves as a GM their ratings plummet. But fans sure do love to see people pile and rag on Cam, so that's what we get, justified or not. It's great.

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Grow up how? What the fug are you talking about? All he said is that something needs to change and he isn't the OC WHICH IS TRUE. They wanted to him to stop "moping" in his games and press conferences and he did. Now they want him to smile and say everything is OM at 1-5.

The sports media has an agenda just like any news other news outlet.

He's the leader of this team................act like it.

As a Panther fan........... that was an embarrasing press conference.

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