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The league's only black OC makes it to the Super Bowl....

King Taharqa

By King Taharqa,
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CarolinaPanthers8789 Newbie

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And you're basing this off of? Mike McCoy automatically is a better x and o guy than Mike Tomlin because he's white? How did Mike Tomlin beat Ken Whisenhunt in the Super Bowl? Shouldnt the white guy be superior? How did Jim Caldwell get his offenses to outperform Denvers & New Englands?

Strawman logic. 1 black person's opportunity=the end of the white race. Making white people "compete" for jobs automatically means we want them eradicated entirely. Your argument is very over the top. If you are "superior" why so afraid of "competition"?

I bet Kevin Love would disagree with you. And just because someone is born of a particular race does not AUTOMATICALLY make them superior to another person.

Does this logic apply to Keek? Is it safe to say he'll never be as good as James Anderson or Beason because he's a white guy playing a position that blacks are "just better at"? See the slippery slope we go down when we "generalize" a race as being superior to another with no basis or facts behind our argument. This is also the logic people used towards the QB position that whites were "naturally" better so they reasoned that Clausen & Moore were "safer" bets and more cerebal than Cam. Since Cam was given an opportunity to showcase his talents, we no longer see people clinging to this eugenic ideal. 2 years ago it was "black QBs dont go to the Super Bowl", now we have people championing Colin Kaepernick. If given an opportunity I think these black OCs, QB coaches, and head coaches would do better than you're portraying.

Your original argument was none existed. Now its "none start". And there are white WRs who DO start and have a presence in the NFL in 2013. The same cant be said for black ocs and Qb coaches

what?

Just my opinion KT, mainly cause I have seen your posts before, but most of the time you turn things into a race argument when there doesn't need to be one. For every example you have given me, I can give you at least five that go against your opinion. The race of black coaches to white coaches in the NFL is actually pretty close but because there is not a black man that is leading an offense on a team you get upset. I could easily get upset that there are no starting running backs who are white but I don't because I realize for the most part the best running backs are already starting. Sure there are some black coaches that deserve to be HC's and OC's but for the most part they get the same interview that everyone else does. When you start to make teams hire a certain race is when the NFL becomes more about race than football.

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The league's only black Offensive Coordinator just won the Super Bowl. Congrats to Jimmy Caldwell, and congrats to Joey Flacco. 11 TDs, 0 INTs in the 2013 playoffs. You beat Luck, you beat Peyton, you beat Brady, you beat Kap. Super Bowl MVP. Job well done guys.

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If he repeats his success next year Jim Caldwell will get interviews for a HC gig

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Would it matter if he won the super bowl if he was white?

If he were, emotionally doubt it wouldve drew a response from you. We should all be proud of Caldwell for shattering a eugenic/phrenology stereotype that only white guys are smart enough/qualified enough to be successful offensive coordinators in the NFL. That a black man can be a leader/play caller on offense the same way theyve been on defense. How appropriate this happened Black History Month.

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If he were, emotionally doubt it wouldve drew a response from you. We should all be proud of Caldwell for shattering a eugenic/phrenology stereotype that only white guys are smart enough/qualified enough to be successful offensive coordinators in the NFL. That a black man can be a leader/play caller on offense the same way theyve been on defense. How appropriate this happened Black History Month.

Oh jesus.

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Hiring quotas won't fix the discrepancy (which I question that one even exists, there have been lots of black coaches in recent history, they are fairly represented) nor will interview quotas. If someone was racist, why would interviewing a black coach change their mind. The Rooney rule makes no sense at all.

If you force teams to hire black coaches then you're discriminating against other potential candidates.

This argument turns into visceral drivel usually. First prove their is a discrepancy in recent years, then prove it's caused by racism. Once you do, put up a solution to the problem. Seeing the thread devolve into a whiny race war is not even approaching a solution.

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