Touchdown Scorer's(case for going WR early in draft).

[koolkatluke]

lol i haven't had sigs turned on in a long time and avys are normally gone as well. i always laugh when i see someone talking about sig bets because i usually forget people actually use them and i never updated mine unless someone mentioned it. in fact I'm not even sure whats on it right now. i remember someone made a sig bet with me (JOAT i think) that we wouldn't draft cam and when i won i had to be reminded about the bet and i just let him off the hook cause i don't even care.

bets about how well players do after the draft are also hilarious because who knows what the situation would be? silliness, i tell ya.

If your scared just say you're scared. I'm the one taking most of the risk. My guy has had a ACL injury and your guy is the next Julio Jones in Silva mind. What's the problem if you don't care what sig you have? We can always use $ but I know you don't want to do that.

[koolkatluke]

I use to be a Justin Hunter fan, but now I wouldn't touch him unless it was maybe in the 2nd round.

He has the same frame as a female track runner from Kenya, and he definitely lost his explosiveness since his injury.

Patterson will be a better receiver, but this guy is way too much of a fugging hater to even consider that.

I'm a hater becuase I'm not all over a prospect like you are? Because I choose to see the problems with the kid and you choose to be blind to it isn't my fault.

[rayzor]

i think hunter will probably be a very good WR...not a star, but good.

i think he's a bit more polished than patterson, but he should be at this point. he's had better coaching, more experience, more time in that offense and with their QB ...why shouldn't he be?

taking a snapshot of both guys at this point in their careers and overlooking the perceived timidity many believe is there because of his recent major injury, hunter might be the more ready of the two at present. few who have actually watched both guys expect hunter to be ahead of this guy at all for very long, which is why you've got hunter being talked about as a round two guy and patterson talked about a round one guy and currently as a mid first rounder. when the combine comes you'll see him talked about even earlier.

people are talking about his very real and achievable potential as a receiver, but what is and will be putting him over the top is his freak athleticism, his versatility, playmaking ability, and what he can do when that ball is in his hands.

he's the type of guy you have very little problem with being raw because you can tell very quickly what the matured product could be like...just like with newton.

[rayzor]

If your scared just say you're scared. I'm the one taking most of the risk. My guy has had a ACL injury and your guy is the next Julio Jones in Silva mind. What's the problem if you don't care what sig you have? We can always use $ but I know you don't want to do that.

lol this is really important to you isn't it?

[Bwood]

I'm a hater becuase I'm not all over a prospect like you are? Because I choose to see the problems with the kid and you choose to be blind to it isn't my fault.

I'm not all over any particular prospect, actually. I do believe we need a receiver though and that Patterson is the best option if we took one at 14.

You on the other hand literally sit on this forum ALL day and try to force your worthless opinion down people's throats.

[koolkatluke]

i think hunter will probably be a very good WR...not a star, but good.

i think he's a bit more polished than patterson, but he should be at this point. he's had better coaching, more experience, more time in that offense and with their QB ...why shouldn't he be?

taking a snapshot of both guys at this point in their careers and overlooking the perceived timidity many believe is there because of his recent major injury, hunter might be the more ready of the two at present. few who have actually watched both guys expect hunter to be ahead of this guy at all for very long, which is why you've got hunter being talked about as a round two guy and patterson talked about a round one guy and currently as a mid first rounder. when the combine comes you'll see him talked about even earlier.

people are talking about his very real and achievable potential as a receiver, but what is and will be putting him over the top is his freak athleticism, his versatility, playmaking ability, and what he can do when that ball is in his hands.

he's the type of guy you have very little problem with being raw because you can tell very quickly what the matured product could be like...just like with newton.

Why is Patterson consider a freak of nature athlete but Hunter isn't when he is running about the same speed (after a ACL) taller and the same weight?

[koolkatluke]

I'm not all over any particular prospect, actually. I do believe we need a receiver though and that Patterson is the best option if we took one at 14.

You on the other hand literally sit on this forum ALL day and try to force your worthless opinion down people's throats.

So because I don't agree with you my opinion is worthless???

OK.

If it's worthless then why the fug you keep reading it and replying to me? Seem like a bitch move on your part. Talking poo about my opinion but can't ignore it.

[beastson]

If you can't see the difference in a polished WR and 1who isn't I can't help you.

Patterson has a lot of raw talent, but he's way tooo up-straight coming off the line. He's going to struggle with press at the NFL level

[koolkatluke]

Patterson has a lot of raw talent, but he's way tooo up-straight coming off the line. He's going to struggle with press at the NFL level

His strenght will help him with physical CB pressing him and jamming him at the line. But it will take time to learn that. He also needs to either get a lot more seperation or stop letting balls get to his body. Or a lot of balls will get knocked out of his hands. But again this can all be learned and work on.

My only problem is I'd rather have a more polished product at the 14th pick and from some strange reason. There are more polished WR who will be avalible in the 2nd round. (Hunter and Patton)

[koolkatluke]

This is a pretty good comparison video it actual shows where they line up and how they are covered from the defense of UGA.

[beastson]

It's not about strength, it's your technique getting off the line. It's hard to jam S.S at the scrimmage, not cause he's strong but he knows how to manuever along with being extremely quick and shifty. It's something to work on and get better, but it'll take about 2 years

[koolkatluke]

This a good one to against the UF defense.

[Squirrel]

To many good WR's in this draft to waste a first rounder on one. Fix the OL and DL in teh first and grab a good WR in the 2nd. Or better yet trade back in the first to a late round pick and get a possble extra 2nd round pick.

[koolkatluke]

It's not about strength, it's your technique getting off the line. It's hard to jam S.S at the scrimmage, not cause he's strong but he knows how to manuever along with being extremely quick and shifty. It's something to work on and get better, but it'll take about 2 years

Different WR's use different ways to beat the Jam. Smith can use speed and agility Boldin use his power to knock guys off. But I agree it will take Patterson a year to learn how to beat Jams and press coverage. Then how to run all the routes of the route tree. Then it will take him time to learn the playbook and how to be a pro and do this as a job. So I agree I think he is a project and we will hve to wait for his impact.