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mock that probably won't and shouldn't happen v.2a and v.2b


rayzor

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ok....i don't have a clue what's going to happen so i'm throwing a couple out there. one with a trade and one without. the trade i'm throwing in there is with san fran. we get their #31 and #61 picks and i think this trade is made with star already being off the board. why san fran would want our #14 even if star isn't there? i dunno. that's their issue. we're just taking an offer.

aside from star in this draft, i'm not really attached to any specific players...more just the best player so i threw a name (or two in a couple places) just to give an idea so instead of getting hung up on specific players, just insert BPA at that position...alright? alright.

first...without trade:

1st) Star Lotulelei - ok, i'm on that bandwagon of hope now. sue me. the guy is solid against the pass and the run, but the run is what i'm more interested in. and he can eat up multiple blockers. and he's a star already... his name says so.

2nd) Justin Hunter - tall fast receiver. opens things up for smitty. provides another weapon for cam. potential to grow into a #1 in the post smitty era. you don't like him? pick your favorite WR at that point. fixed.

4th) David Quessenberry or Brennan Williams - basically a big ol OT. i'm not sure who i like more. i think Quessenberry is more able to step right in if needed, but i think Williams has more upside. i think Williams is a natural for RT, but Quessenberry could make the move to LT...but the point is a big ol OT to beef up the line.

5th) Jeff Baca or Alvin Bailey - big ol' OG that could be stout competition for RG. Gettleman wants big guys...i'm giving him big guys. I'd be tempted to switch and get a guard before another OT, but i think you can get better guards later than OT and not just here, but everywhere across the board. OTs just go quicker.

6th) Jordan Mills OT La Tech. - or best big OL available. I was looking at a center like Matt Stankiewitch just to have a backup in the works for Kalil, but i figured I'd rather find a vet with some experience rather than trusting it to some rookie we found in the 6th round. best idea just to get the best big fat guy for the OL at this point. Mills, tho, would be another good guy to compete for the RT job and i think he'd actually be a steal at this point.

if you notice a theme, i went with the idea that the bottom few rounds of the draft would and maybe should be used to beef up the OL and i think this might be a good practice for a couple three years. find the best prospects later and develop and create competition. i just happen to like the idea of focusing the first few rounds on skill players and DL and use the back half to find big guys for the trenches.

anyways.... with the trade (only a couple spots are different from the above):

1st) (31st overall) Sylvester Williams - not quite star, but still that big body that we need in the middle who would really help against the run and eat up blockers. i'll call him star-lite. if we draft him and you tell him i called him that i'll deny it. you can't prove nothin'.

2nd) (44th overall) Justin Hunter (see above)

2nd (61st overall) Blidi Wreh Wilson (CB UConn) or Phillip Thomas (Safety Fresno St.) or best DB available. Just picking up someone that would be a huge boost the the secondary. Blidi Wreh is a tall and very smart CB. works best in a zone. works best on the outside. some have talked about him getting snagged in the first. of course he's got his weak spots, mainly in man but in zone he'd be solid and he could handle the tall guys on the outside that the army of nickels we have couldn't. Thomas can play strong or free, he can play fast and quick, he's aggressive and strong, and he's got really good height and size. he's good in coverage and can do single coverage if needed and is pretty much equally good in man or zone. he's great at doing damage in the backfield, 12 TFLs last year. of course he's got a weak spot as well...tackling in open field, but that issue can be worked out. if not one of these guys, then best DB available.

4th-6th rounds the same as above.

again, aside from Star, it's more about the BPAs at those positions and it's pretty much just meant to be a strategy and players mentioned are just an idea of what might be available at that point.

honk if you like it. if you don't, just like before...too bad. i still ain't giving out any refunds.

cheers.

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