Jay Gruden: 'Foolish' to make RGIII a pocket passer

[Mr. Scot]

At protecting Cam?  He's gotten down a little more this season than in the past, but Cam's so much bigger than RG3 that the risk is a little less

 

It's still not a good situation when your quarterback is your leading rusher, no matter how big he is.

 

[mav1234]

It's still not a good situation when your quarterback is your leading rusher, no matter how big he is.

 

 

Well, Cam wasn't our leading rusher, and if you combine Dwill and Stew's numbers, we actually had 1000 yards from our primary RB. Cam had fewer than half their carries.  We run very few designed runs, which is good.

 

If not for the struggles on the OL and our receivers getting open, the disparity in favor the RBs would have been even greater.

 

But one of Cam's greatest strengths is his athleticism and ability to break a play open.  Don't take that threat away, imo (which I don't think we intentionally did that much).

[Mr. Scot]

Well, Cam wasn't our leading rusher, and if you combine Dwill and Stew's numbers, we actually had 1000 yards from our primary RB. Cam had fewer than half their carries.  We run very few designed runs, which is good.

 

If not for the struggles on the OL and our receivers getting open, the disparity in favor the RBs would have been even greater.

 

But one of Cam's greatest strengths is his athleticism and ability to break a play open.  Don't take that threat away, imo (which I don't think we intentionally did that much).

 

it's definitely not by design that Newton ran as much as he did.

 

We essentially became the Eagles with Randall Cunningham back when Buddy Ryan used to say "you just make two or three big plays a game and my defense will take care of the rest."

 

Not a winning formula, and not one I want to see again next season.

 

[mav1234]

it's definitely not by design that Newton ran as much as he did.

 

We essentially became the Eagles with Randall Cunningham back when Buddy Ryan used to say "you just make two or three big plays a game and my defense will take care of the rest."

 

Not a winning formula, and not one I want to see again next season.

 

 

injuries and ineptitude.  it wasn't by design, so I'm not terribly worried.

[footballisasport]

it's definitely not by design that Newton ran as much as he did.

 

We essentially became the Eagles with Randall Cunningham back when Buddy Ryan used to say "you just make two or three big plays a game and my defense will take care of the rest."

 

Not a winning formula, and not one I want to see again next season.

 

 

It is by design if your team recognizes that it has weaknesses since the beginning of the season and the only person they can turn to seriously help them is the QB.

 

I agree with you. I shouldn't be made a habit, but it's definitely a plus for this team.

[footballisasport]

It's no secret, I don't like the way they try to sell Luck to us. I'm a true believer in letting the game take care of itself. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth when that's not respected. I think they're corrupting the game doing that and it's not sustainable in the long term. This is no kid thought right there.

 

U are indeed a dying breed. 

[footballisasport]

Curious as to where you guys are getting the "general consensus" about RGIII and Luck?

 

I freaking hate Luck... he's a neck beard goof ball.  I've kind of seen that as the general huddle consensus.

 

I actually kind of like RGIII but he won't last.  Unlike Cam, he doesn't know how to avoid contact and he's no where close to Cam's size.

 

Honestly Gruden's approach is probably the right one, but he's gonna get hurt, mainly because like Vick, he throws himself around too much.  

When I read RG III's background, I knew the media was only pitting him with Luck because they knew he wasn't 100% health and long lasting. They made him the the anti-Cam because he was never close to the specimen Cam is but they are both black and folks would simply buy into believe that he was and in turn making Luck just as equal to or better than Cam. 

 

I keep telling you folks today's media is nothing but pure psychology. 

[Mr. Scot]

injuries and ineptitude. it wasn't by design, so I'm not terribly worried.

I am if those things don't get fixed.

[2jakefansinva]

why do I hate on RGKnee........................he plays for the foreskins.

[juliansever00]

^ why everyone here want RG3 to fail and Luck to succeed? What's the inside story on that? Am I missing something!

 

 

i actually like rg3 more than luck

 

rg3 actually gets called out by the media when he has bad games, luck( not so much)

[juliansever00]

Luck >>>> RG3 as a qb

 

 

not if you go by the stats