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Ted Ginn joins the Panthers on a one-year deal

Mar 21 2013 04:06 PM Cam2Ligit2Quit Carolina Panthers
Former 49ers wide receiver Ted Ginn Jr. signed a one-year deal with the Carolina Panthers, ESPN reported Thursday, ending his three-year tenure in San Francisco.
Ginn had only two receptions in 2012 and ceded his kickoff-return duties to rookie LaMichael James late in the regular season, but he remained effective as a punt returner. He was 11th in the NFL in punt-return average (11.2 yards) after ranking fourth and third, respectively, the previous two seasons.
In the Super Bowl, Ginn's 32-yard third-quarter punt return set up a 20-yard touchdown drive in the midst of San Francisco's second-half rally.


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1. Let me make this statement. fug Rivera's doghouse. It's the strangest poo ever. How players get on it is a mystery and if he let's his doghouse get in the way of putting a talented player on the field. Then he won't be the coach for long.

2. Gettis has a few things going for him.

He's cheap.

He's young.

He has more upside then any WR on this roster.

Last not only is he a deep threat with track speed. He is a big target in the Red zone.

Something Gettlemen mention he wanted.


Damn it, KKL, if you aren't singing LaFell's praises, you are singing an ode to Gettis. In reality, LaFell is a WR3, plain and simple, and Gettis is a big question mark that could easily be cut, cheap or not (especially when you have guys like Barden and Hixon out there that Gettleman knows).

Rivera is simple, really: Handle your business and you find your way onto the field. fug up, and you get intimate with the bench. It's really nothing mysterious about it.

And saying that Gettis has more upside than any WR on this roster (other than Smitty, I assume), really ain't saying anything because our WR corps is upside down---like a loan.

now give me denario alexander



If this would happen, you can say good bye to Lamont Bryant and David Gettis. Which would not be a bad thing.

What exactly would need to happen in order for this to come to fruition?
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koolkatluke
Mar 22 2013 01:07 AM

Damn it, KKL, if you aren't singing LaFell's praises, you are singing an ode to Gettis. In reality, LaFell is a WR3, plain and simple, and Gettis is a big question mark that could easily be cut, cheap or not (especially when you have guys like Barden and Hixon out there that Gettleman knows).

Rivera is simple, really: Handle your business and you find your way onto the field. fug up, and you get intimate with the bench. It's really nothing mysterious about it.

And saying that Gettis has more upside than any WR on this roster (other than Smitty, I assume), really ain't saying anything because our WR corps is upside down---like a loan.


I'm sorry I support the Player on our team that have actually shown talent. I promise to keep doing it as long as I can.

By the way Lafell is a solid number #2 Wr and untill Gettis is cut he still in the plans and has value.

It is very easy to cut him without any cap hit but they haven't done it yet. So somebody in that buliding may see the same value I see in him.


Rivera is simple, really: Handle your business and you find your way onto the field. fug up, and you get intimate with the bench. It's really nothing mysterious about it.


That didn't seem the rule with Nake or any of the Guards that were getting Cam killed.
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By the way Lafell is a solid number #2 Wr...


What you consider "solid", I consider decidedly mediocre (or gossamer). Here is a debate I had earlier:

Find me 14 other wide outs who put up nearly 700 yards and four touchdowns.


Eric Decker, Lance Moore, Julio Jones, Mike Williams, Victor Cruz, Justin Blackmon, Randall Cobb, Miles Austin, Ty Hilton, Jeremy Maclin, Torrey Smith, James Jones, Sidney Rice. Antonio Brown. Andre Roberts.

All i have put up better stats that you just stated and none are number 1 receivers. I can keep going if you want.


Um... the majority of those guys are number one's...


Are you kidding me? Now you're just being silly.


Like you he just wanted to prove his point at all costs, so he got technical on me

Easiest way to see who is right against who is wrong is go directly off of team's depth charts, not based off of opinion. So let's take a look shall we...

Julio Jones, Sidney Rice, Antonio Brown, Victor Cruz, Justin Blackmon, and Jeremy Maclin are all listed as one's based on teams depth chart's.


Well, since you are more concerned with being right, on a technicality, let me tell you that you are absolutely correct. You deserve a cookie. But... then let's take the earlier list and take the ones that apparently aren't technically listed as WR1s and add, Roddy White, Golden Tate, Mike Wallace, Hakeem Nicks, Cecil Shorts, and Desean Jackson. I suppose you think that LaFell can currently take his place among that number...?




I don't see why not, you have to remember that we had a tight end that took a lot of receptions/yards/touchdowns away from our wide receivers. If I'm not mistaken, Greg Olsen was third in receiving yards this year for tight ends.

Also, I wouldn't put DeSean Jackson on that list... just for reference.


To your first remark: Becuase LaFell has never consistently been able to carry his team like Roddy White, Golden Tate, Mike Wallace, Hakeem Nicks, Cecil Shorts, or Desean Jackson have shown the ability to do when their WR1 (as listed on the web site as you so correctly pointed out) was receiving double coverage, out, or just not having a good day. To be blunt, I would say that everyone other than Tate is a quasi WR1 (which is really the point), but even Tate is better than LaFell when you look at his impact on the team.

Regarding D-Jax, he logically should be included in the list. You do see what I did with the list, right? The list was really a product of your own making.


You guys are killing me with this LaFell is a solid #2 stuff. If LaFell is solid, I wonder why all these guys who are technically listed as 2s, or guys that we may think of as 2s are considered around the league to be overall better players, if not legitimate threats, and really make LaFell look relatively sub par when it comes to impacting football games. I'm just sorry; if you can't be highly productive---and I said highly productive---opposite 89 after your third year in the league, then you just aren't the guy to do the job. Even Tate put up 688 yards and 7 TDs. I bet most FOs would be knocking on Tate's door before LaFell's, so I wouldn't exactly call that a ringing endorsement as a WR2. This does not make LaFell a bad WR, it just means that he is what he is; a solid WR3 IMO.

If he is the most solid WR we got to complement Smitty (which he is), then we have a bleeding wound on the other side that needs stitches, but actually has Band-Aids.

The same old arguments and excuses about LaFell and Gettis are getting old and stale. We need consistent playmakers at the WR position, not guys on the sidelines, guys who make cameo appearances now and then, or guys who are souped up versions of Legs Naane.

shut the fug and take your cry baby ass somewhere else. I hate that there always has to be somebody complain over everything. This is not something that should be complained about. We just got one of the best returners in the league. We aren't asking him to be the #1 receiver. Get over it


one of the best returners in the league... who had a worse KR avg than kealoha pilares last season. and a worse PR avg than joe adams. had four fumbles on 46 touches.

he just about had less receiving yards the past three seasons (384 on 33 catches) than louis murphy did in 2012 (336 on 25). so he offers nothing to the offense.

yeah wow so pumped for this signing bro. might as well cancel the season and give us the lombardi right now. so glad i'm not a blind homer.
With a round 1 or round 2 WR pick, LaFell will be our solid #3 WR.
Too many of you writing off Gettis. He had 500 yards and 3 TDs his rookie season with Clausen, Moore and Brian St Pierre throwing him the ball. I'm interested to see what he can do with Cam. I don't think he was ever in any doghouse last year, I think it was more of a precautionary thing with his knee and all. He should be ready to go at Training Camp this year.

I don't know if that's true.

1. He could have still not been right from his injury.

2. This coaching staff has shown that they don't always make correct judgement with the Depth chart.
Example: Leaguedoodoo starting over Lafell most of last year.

Legadoodoo....was there bc it was a new scheme and he had to line people up. It made sense. Even Smitty said Legatron had to keep him straight. He was an on field playcall instructor.

Rivera's inconsistency at what players get in his dog house and what players don't is part of the reason why I believe he will be fired midseason.

who stands out? Adams and Goodson both deserved it...

Norman did.
Well bless my britches.

Really?? He's been hurt for 2 years and played with Clausen but yeah he was given a chance.
And I still don't agree with the McClain move but there had to be something happening off the field for them to cut a 3rd round pick so quick. Again Gettis is still here for some reason. It would be simple to cut him but they haven't.


The team can't stop and wait on him forever and ever. He's heading into his 4th season. This is a what have you done for me lately league. If he can't turn it on in training camp this year then it is time to cut ties. No more automatic roster spots. I hope he can make something happen, we need more legitimate threats.

I haven't seen this video floating around here yet. I'm a huge OSU fan and loved watching this guy just run away from guys. He has so much potential to be a star player. If can devote 9 minutes, watch all of this! It is a reminder of what he can do. Video is poor quality btw. 3:43 is nasty
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koolkatluke
Mar 22 2013 08:55 AM

What you consider "solid", I consider decidedly mediocre (or gossamer). Here is a debate I had earlier:









Like you he just wanted to prove his point at all costs, so he got technical on me



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You guys are killing me with this LaFell is a solid #2 stuff. If LaFell is solid, I wonder why all these guys who are technically listed as 2s, or guys that we may think of as 2s are considered around the league to be overall better players, if not legitimate threats, and really make LaFell look relatively sub par when it comes to impacting football games. I'm just sorry; if you can't be highly productive---and I said highly productive---opposite 89 after your third year in the league, then you just aren't the guy to do the job. Even Tate put up 688 yards and 7 TDs. I bet most FOs would be knocking on Tate's door before LaFell's, so I wouldn't exactly call that a ringing endorsement as a WR2. This does not make LaFell a bad WR, it just means that he is what he is; a solid WR3 IMO.

If he is the most solid WR we got to complement Smitty (which he is), then we have a bleeding wound on the other side that needs stitches, but actually has Band-Aids.

The same old arguments and excuses about LaFell and Gettis are getting old and stale. We need consistent playmakers at the WR position, not guys on the sidelines, guys who make cameo appearances now and then, or guys who are souped up versions of Legs Naane.


Since you've already formed your opinion on him and took no consideration of the situation. What is the point?

But you might want to look at all the WR who played in a option type offense to compare stats. You can't really compare his stats to a WR who played in a pass happy offense can you?

Let's also not forget the fact he missed 2 games this year and half another.

With 77 targets (and this doesn't say all were catch able balls. He had 673 yards and 4 td. 89 had 60 more targets had 1,000 + yards and 4 td. So maybe it wasn't the WR 's maybe it was the scheme.
*Sigh*... we could have drafted Dwayne Harris, but we took Pilares.

We could have signed Dwayne Harris when the Cowboys cut/re-signed him.

Everyone called me a homer/stupid/etc when I said he was going to produce in the NFL... SMH

Are you serious, he had a safety over top mirroring Vincent the whole way. You would be nuts if you would put Luke on Vincent for 50 plays in one game. Luke would be so down on himself that it would take years to bounce back. One fluke play doesn't prove a point. I am not sold on his coverage skills especially with his slower speed.

Coming out of college, his coverage skills were questionable so for you to put your nickels on him covering Graham, Davis, Zach Miller, Gonzo, Clark, Grokowski, Hernandez and the rest of the boys that we play this year, you are looking to put him on the suicide watch program.


I know I'm a few pages late, and I know other people have already done so, but I wanted to additionally point out that this post is pretty fuging retarded.
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koolkatluke
Mar 22 2013 09:03 AM

Legadoodoo....was there bc it was a new scheme and he had to line people up. It made sense. Even Smitty said Legatron had to keep him straight. He was an on field playcall instructor.


But by the 6 game of the season it was oblivious that Everybody knew the offense and were better players then legatron. But it took Rivera until game 11 or 13 to make the switch. So again Rivera use of the depth chart is a question mark sometimes.
I'm excited to see what they do with Ginn. Besides hugely upgrading the kick/punt return game, he adds a deep threat at WR. Let him run some reverses and he could change a game.
A burner like Ginn fits Cam perfectly. Need someone to be at the other end of that cannon.
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koolkatluke
Mar 22 2013 09:35 AM

What you consider "solid", I consider decidedly mediocre (or gossamer). Here is a debate I had earlier:









Like you he just wanted to prove his point at all costs, so he got technical on me



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You guys are killing me with this LaFell is a solid #2 stuff. If LaFell is solid, I wonder why all these guys who are technically listed as 2s, or guys that we may think of as 2s are considered around the league to be overall better players, if not legitimate threats, and really make LaFell look relatively sub par when it comes to impacting football games. I'm just sorry; if you can't be highly productive---and I said highly productive---opposite 89 after your third year in the league, then you just aren't the guy to do the job. [size=5] Even Tate put up 688 yards and 7 TDs.
I bet most FOs would be knocking on Tate's door before LaFell's, so I wouldn't exactly call that a ringing endorsement as a WR2. This does not make LaFell a bad WR, it just means that he is what he is; a solid WR3 IMO.

If he is the most solid WR we got to complement Smitty (which he is), then we have a bleeding wound on the other side that needs stitches, but actually has Band-Aids.

The same old arguments and excuses about LaFell and Gettis are getting old and stale. We need consistent playmakers at the WR position, not guys on the sidelines, guys who make cameo appearances now and then, or guys who are souped up versions of Legs Naane.


Oh I'm glad you use Tate as a example. So here's a few question.

1. Who is the number 1 WR in Seattle because Sid Rice had pretty much the same Stats as Tate 50rec. 748 yads and 7td on 80 targets? It's not as big as the difference here is where 89 got 60 more targets then Lafell. Rice only got only had 12 more targets then Tate.

2. You seem to neglect mentioning that Seattle didn't have other targets like a good TE and FB to throw to. Zach Miller had 35 rec. for 383 yards and 3 td. Now Compare that with Olsen who had 69 rec. 843 yards and 5 td. Also as a side bar Olsen was targeted 104 times which is 28 more times then Lafell. So if you really want to be technical about it Olsen was the #2 WR.
Also Tolbert caught 27 ball and was targeted 39 times compared to Michael Robinson (FB for the Seattle) who caught 13 balls on 16 targets. You don't think haveing more weapons could have effected Lafell numbers?
Bottom line for me is; Lafell is good not great. We need to upgrade the position, but i love having Lafell on the field. When you mention the amount of targets compared to Smitty, couldn't that be because Lafell wasn't open? Like others have said, he disappears at times because of strong CB play. A lot of people poo on Lafell, I think he's a great reciever option, but again we need an upgrade.

A burner like Ginn fits Cam perfectly. Need someone to be at the other end of that cannon.


Yep. Or throw it short and let him run with it. Plus you now have someone that's a threat on a reverse or an end around other than just Smitty.
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koolkatluke
Mar 22 2013 10:15 AM

Bottom line for me is; Lafell is good not great. We need to upgrade the position, but i love having Lafell on the field. When you mention the amount of targets compared to Smitty, couldn't that be because Lafell wasn't open? Like others have said, he disappears at times because of strong CB play. A lot of people poo on Lafell, I think he's a great reciever option, but again we need an upgrade.



This not being open thing can't be used unless you have some stats to prove he wasn't getting open.
Also I'd like to state that Anquan Boldin is hardly ever open but still gets 112 targets. 89 could be double teamed and will still get a high numbers of targets. So this being open thing isn't always on the WR.

Also this disappearing thing is false because you can say the same thing about Tolbert. But we all know it wasn't Tolberts fault he wasn't getting the touches early in the season. There were games where you would have thought Olsen diappeared for a whole half. But Again we all know that wasn't Olsen fault as well.

Why does Lafell get the blame for this when it happen to other players on the team?

I know I'm a few pages late, and I know other people have already done so, but I wanted to additionally point out that this post is pretty fuging retarded.


thunderkatt is a known idiot. he was one of the "cam needs to learn how to not talk like a thug" dipshits from last season.
It'd probably take a cap miracle, but I'd love to see the Panthers somehow manage to sign Kevin Boothe now.

Not just because it would be a good move - which it would - but to watch the full blown fangasm that would erupt in this place :lol: