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Madden ratings are a popularity contest anyways.

We started out last season with two of the ugliest lopsided losses in franchise history after holding out our starters for most of preseason. And before that in camp our defense actually looked halfway formidable against our offense. That same defense ended up being one of the worst ever. Skepticism is justified until we see some good results early in the season whether folks like it or not. That comes with the territory of not having a winning season in going on 8 years now.

I still remember this game. I was so excited for our new WR. Could have been another Mike Evans. Sometimes guys just never fulfill their potential for a number of reasons. Sad but it's life.

Yep, that broke Benjamin with failure

Mr. QB School just doesn't realize that he's telling on himself needing a big ass window of a mile of separation to throw into.

Yep, all reports were out of that joint practice was that KB was the best player on the field and #2 wasn't even close. The combo of the ACL and losing his mom was just too much. He probably didn't have the mental makeup to be great for a long time but I really thing he could've been a David Boston type where he was absolutely dominant for a few years.

Thielen and TMac are gonna drive Mr. QB School insane this year. He hates WR that call for the ball with no separation. Although I guess that's understandable from a career backup lol.

He found another piece of pie. He found himself out of the league. He found himself a new career.

Man... what could've been... Still hurts to think about. When KB dominated Clemson to start the season I wanted the Panthers to take him for Cam and was so hype when they did. Then his mom passed and he just fell apart... I hope he's found peace.

Be careful, haters don't like being reminded that they hate.

I NEED THE REGULAR SEASON TO START IMMEDIATELY

I've been low-key keeping that kicker battle in the forefront. There certainly seems to be more misses than I'm used to (hell, Joe Person feeling the need to clarify), but it is practice, and I guess the skinny posts are skinny for a reason. There could be a better name, by the way. What about "precision posts?"

Typical of bigger WRs. KB was similar in that way. I think T-Mac is faster than KB but definitely doesn't have KB's physicality. He definitely has the better natural hands though KB was one of those odd guys who seemed like his hands got better the harder the catch was.

Madden ratings have always been silly. I haven't played in years but they used to just tank young players' "awareness" rating (whatever that does) to stunt their overalls down to the 70s.

Yeah, you know...... Whatever you say sweetcakes.

If he leaves, hopefully he'll come back for a 1 day deal to retire a Panther.

Hopefully he picks up a few habits from Thielen, Renfrow and Coker. Side bar: His initial acceleration leaves alot to be desired but his build up speed is pretty decent. Week 1 of last season he was one of top 5 fastest players in the country. Ironically, beating him also in the top 5 at 20.3 mph was Jimmy Horn Jr.

You gave me the keys- You cokeheads don't know his role. That's the the whole kit and caboodle, I know lloyd and his top 15 rating would be leading the Panthers defense while cokeheads don't know his role!

Very astute observation!

I really feel sorry for your lack.of communication skills. I'm not scared. You're acting like a damn joke right now. Certainly nothing to ever be scared of. Like Linville has said, we dont know Cokers role in this season's offense. We know he thrived last season. The jags aren't going to ask for Coker, and the Panthers aren't going to call the Jags.

I honestly hate how each of the past and current panther "superstars" have enough flaws to make each decisions very diffcult- Dbrown, Horn, Icky, BY, and even BB or Moore. You can make a clear case for NOT dropping the bag and dropping the bag. There's no clear 100% easy "Y-E-S". Plus Panthers have gave BY loads of help, imo too much for a #1 overall pick. Now he's going to want some burrow deal....Id don't like it....

I'm saying it now: not contested catch "guy," it is T-mac'a destiny to become a contested catch god!

Which angle? It would add around 1.5mill to the cap and Panthers get a top 15 PFF LB to lead the defense for the 2025 season? Chemistry wise, I don't know if Coker is liked or hated or loner or ______ . I just see hes got a few players in front of him. I think that's the biggest take-away, well besides all the cokeheads being too scared to call his stats or if he's active. Huddle has Coker rated as a ring of honor, I like him and all, but not that high......

On an off note, we may not have to pay Bryce if things don't go as planned. Barnwell isn't inking Bryce just yet: "There might be a truly desperate team out there willing to send a first-round pick to the Panthers right now, but I suspect most would probably prefer to wait and see whether the QB from the second half of 2024 is the guy we see in 2025. We might find out what Young really fetches in a trade after this season." https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/45824150/nfl-trade-tiers-2025-players-worth-first-round-pick-all-32-teams-contract-value#CAR Not that I'm trying to hijack the thread or anything...might have more money available than we thought...

He is supposed to be the contested catch guy. Good to see he seems to be able to do it at this level so far. Hope he can when the bullets are live.