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For reference, for the people who seem to not understand the context here, Panthers GOAT Julius Peppers was averaging 0.675 sacks/game through four seasons in his NFL career. Parsons is averaging 0.833.
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That's a wild speculation. From what I have seen from our team, we avoid "me first" type players, and I am thankful for it. Not every team will sign a Antonio Brown or Odell Beckham.
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Different time, different place. Every draft has its own dynamics, you know that. Moreover, picking an inexperienced rookie and arguably the best pass rusher in the game are two totally different things. 26 is young as hell. He's just entering his prime years. He hasn't even played five seasons.
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Football is here! Chargers vs. Lions
LinvilleGorge replied to LinvilleGorge's topic in Carolina Panthers
Josh Allen is the biggest positive shocker I can recall. I've never seen anyone develop as much as he has as a passer. Dude couldn't hit the broadside of a harn at Wyoming. -
I don't think there is a single GM in the NFL who wouldn't make that trade, if given the option. DB is a very good player. Parsons is tracking towards a HOF career.
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Totally fair but there were also Josh Allen comparisons knowing he would be a project. He is still young enough to develop
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Micah officially requests a trade
Move the Panthers to Raleigh replied to jb2288's topic in Carolina Panthers
I get that we need something to talk about, but the cats never get in on these major player moves. You know this. I'm glad they won't get him, though. No more trades or cut-corners. Build the right way -
You are going to find a way to discredit everything I say while ignoring the questions and evidence. Not sure how we are supposed to have a conversation like this.
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What does this really accomplish? Makes more sense to keep Brown and find our own pass rushers
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This is true but this is all fantasy anyway. Dallas very rarely lets great players in their prime get away. He will get paid and remain a Cowboy.
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Parsons is 26 Derrick Brown is 27. Neither of them are that young. But they are both in their prime no doubt. If we didn't pass on him and Parsons were already here we could be having a different conversation or we could be having the same conversation as the Cowboys. It's all speculation. But we had our chance if we wanted him.
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Different position, different focus. DB swallows the run. 90 PFF grade and NFL record in tackles for the position. We were gouged without him last year.
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Can't recall anyone who has carried this much hype for so long based on name alone. Not being able to supplant Ewers is a big red flag IMO. Ewers was a good college QB, but I would expect a future #1 overall pick to send him to the bench, especially as a sophomore. Maybe not as a freshman but after a year to get his feet wet at the college level if he's anywhere near his hype level then not playing him over Ewers last year was a huge mistake.
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It was an ex-Cowboy, THE Jesse Holley, that made that statement. Come on, man.
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I mean, arguably the greatest pass rusher in the NFL currently for a 3rd and Derrick Brown??? That's very one sided, IMO. Yes, Parsons does get injured a lot, so there is that. But Brown, although very good, is not a significant impact in the pass rush. He definitely could end up being that at some point but he absolutely has not been that so far. Parsons is easily worth DB and a 3rd.
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How is it wild? He’s a Manning. And a much less physically talented Quinn Ewers looked pretty good at times in Sarkesian’s offense. Manning could be mediocre for one year as a starter and still go #1 overall on pedigree alone. But I expect he will put up some good stats next year.
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Doesn't fit the way Dan is trying to build the side IMO
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Do you hear this type of stuff being said about DB? Parsons has the diva aura. I stay away from that type of player. A lot of players would say something positive rather than deal with the heat. Especially if they want him out. I feel when players are outspoken about how selfish you are, knowing it will be reported, that is very telling.
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DB, as good as he is---and he is good---is not Parsons. Parsons is great!
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And yet, the players are on his side according to Rapsheet. There are always more than side to a story.
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I think you heavily underestimate the value DB brings. He set an NFL record for tackles by a DT in 23'.
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That's exactly what I was thinking, but people are telling me that it's a whole bunch.
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I don't see how you are saying I am painting him any sort of way. I told you my gut feeling, based on nothing, and provided a quick AI overview seemingly garnered from public opinion backing that up. Here's a more in depth look. Public Spats: Parsons has been involved in public disagreements with former teammates, media members, and even the Cowboys' owner, Jerry Jones. Perceived Selfishness: Some have criticized his focus on individual accolades over team success, with one former player calling him the "most selfish player" on the team according to a Yardbarker article.
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Parsons is still young, so the "one piece away" argument isn't really potent to me. People usually say that when they don't want to pay a vet who's five years older. The fact that Parsons is just entering his prime kinda makes having him worth it. If Parsons isn't worth it, I don't know who is. Like I said (if he actually ends up on the market), he willing suitors, with loads of cash, will not be a problem for him.
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The cap can certainly be worked around but we aren't exactly a representation of a franchise that has successfully accomplished this. Still no back to back winning seasons nearing a decade without a winning record. It is what it is.
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