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Canales and Evero were the guys I was looking at this past Sunday. There was also an unusual lack of discipline from our players, No I think a lot of folks blame the guys in the black and white stripes more. Brandon Staley is definitely winning in head to head competition vs Canales so far. Canales did a better job against him for about two and a half quarters but by games end our second tussle with the Saints for starting to more closely resemble the first one. Not gonna bother rehashing how I feel about Evero...

When XL was drafted it was acknowledged by many he wouldn’t be very good paired with Bryce….which he isn’t. Bryce had something to do with that. Bryce needs players that help him, XL needs a QB that helps him. He is raw and what he should be doing we don’t really do. you ask him to participate in our bad screen game and run crisp routes to catch spotty balls? That’s not XL. XL just flat out needs to time out physical and run dudes downfield…..and then needs good balls on to of that.

I mean I'm an early millennial and we ran a lot of these concepts when I was in high school in the late 90s early 2000s its crazy how over simplified college ball has become.

Who in the hell is giving Tepper and Fitterer credit? Funny how left out Morgan he was just as much on team Bryce as these two were

Bryce isn't why we lost on Sunday but if you'd have given him credit for a game winning drive had he actually done something on the last drive (and I would have) then in turn we have to acknowledge he didn't get it done this last Sunday when it mattered.

Oh we knew what Bryce was. Super elite processing, low ceiling, high floor. Red flags were all over him at Alabama but we chose to ignore them. You don't trade the farm to draft an undersized unicorn at the QB position. You trade that much for the guy that can be the next Manning, Burrow, Lamar, Mahomes, Allen. We didn't just cripple to the team by giving up picks and DJ to draft him, we've also had to spend almost 75% of our assets to surround him for at best, a mediocre production. Bring that back to even between offense and defense and how do you think we end up? And we need to throw in a 40-50m AAV contract for Bryce too. But we're going to credit Tepper and Fitterer with being geniuses for bringing us Bryce. The guy with the worst record as an owner over the last 8 years and the guy that got fired the same year he drafted Bryce. And I thought I smoked some good poo.

From the 70s through the 80s and a while after you could define most offenses as either Air Coryell, WCO (Walsh) or Erhardt-Perkins. The core philosophies of those systems are still around and I still use the terminology to describe concepys but I don't know that too many are strict adherents anymore. Reid maybe. Harbaugh is an old school kinda guy and Greg Roman is his OC so I'd expect a heavy WCO track. Carroll is using Greg Olson out in Vegas if I remember correctly. But yeah, with people style offenses being all but extinct at the college level, it's a tougher transition anymore... especially at quarterback and receiver. (remember one GM saying something like most college guys vouldn't recognize a route tree to save their lives)

omg you are so funny you kill me 2023 Chark and theilen both had their best games of the season the one start Dalton got AT had 1/5 of his total yards in that game and 2 of his 4 TDs. Fast forward to 2024 ALL of Diontes production came in the 6 starts he had with Dalton he had 2 targets for ZERO YARDS IN THE FIRST TWO WEEKS WITH BRYCEY AND THE MAIN REASON HE WAS LET GO WAS HOW PISSED HE WAS WHEN BRYCEY STARTED AGAIN..... Im done you are so deluded you can't see the truth.

I hope the Panthers are making note of this. The good version of Tua was always the rosiest picture of what Bryce might be able to be in the NFL. Tua reached a much higher ceiling in the NFL than Bryce has been able to achieve thus far but he's a poster child for the risks of hitching your salary cap wagon to a seriously physically limited QB.

He could be a threat for maybe a couple of games, and not necessarily in consecutive order. These days I think he's more of a threat to himself and his career

I doubt it. I mean, the Chargers probably kept track of those types of stats at the time but I don't even know if they'd still have them at this point. There's just way more metrics being tracked these days than there were 20+ years ago. At least in terms of public availability. I'm sure all kinds of metrics were being tracked in the past but they just weren't publicly available.

Or when we're playing the Saints I don't believe he's had a bad season overall but the Saints (and especially Olavé) have kinda roughed him up.

I use it just to describe the PA/deep up/fade/corner and post... those were pretty non existent in the original spread, coryell is the run and shoot type stuff now a days i think. I think modern wise all offenses have a form of coryell now though as well as elements of the spread/west coast.

Diontae Johnson DJ Chark Jonathon Mingo Adam Thielen Bryce got the absolute most out of these guys.

He was a threat. He looked amazing in limited play time, tho I did not get to see the bengals game because of Helene. he just had mental health problems and now he’s out of the league.

Legette and Mingo's issues can't rightly be laid at Bryce's feet.

I think hes been fantastic with the pass rush hes been paired with.... if we had even a league average pass rush he doesnt give up a lot of the plays he has.

I'm talking more Walsh style WCO than Coryell. I know they used to refer to Air Coryell with similar terminology but after Walsh blew up, I stopped hearing that term used outside of Walsh / Shanahan/ Holmgren and company.

A lot of Horns come in just 2-3 games the rest of the time the ball doesnt go his way much I will say i dont think many of his misses are in run support.... I feel its usually when hes shocked they threw it his way or missed a play on the ball

hmmmm what postion is 100% dependant on the QB to have meaningful impact...... ill wait

Uh huh Let's just say in some of our prior conversations, what "we" know of Tepper hasn't exactly panned out on any consistent basis.

This has to be one of the dumbest things I’ve read on this board in awhile so congrats on that So investing a 1st round pick and 2nd rounder into Legette and Mingo even though they suck somehow counts against Bryce. Yep that makes sense lol at Diontae Johnson being a “threat”. He failed on like 6 teams in 2024. Gee I wonder why

PSA: In the interest of clarity, the above reference is not meant as a direct comparison between Christian Rozeboom and Junior Seau. ... (I'd like for that to go without saying but my experience with these sorts of conversations, including today specifically, suggests that a disclaimer is warranted)

Tepper is not and should not let dan and dave roll the dice on another qb for their 4rth year especially after Dan was involved with bryce and if the 5th is picked up before may. Tepper will simply be like "why didnt you upgrade in the off season if this was an issue......bye"

I wonder if there's an official tab on how many Junior Seau used to miss. That was one of the bigger knocks on him back in the day.