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In this case it’s just people arguing dishonestly to give their boy more time. if there was a qb worth it, well the panthers can’t afford to draft him if the panthers could afford to draft him, then all of a sudden they’d have bigger needs etc similar to them challenging who’d be an improvement from FA, even though we don’t even know who’s going to be a FA. Also funny since history has shown basically any free agent would be an improvement.

Dart is going to get a new HC and probably a good one in this cycle, if someone can convince him to stop taking these big hits on scrambles he might develop into something.

Supposedly Dave is very hands off on the defense or so he has said. I do think that does speak to some of those coaching limitations. There is an entire thread on this, BTW.

That language gives “hey man this isn’t my call” energy.

True! I think this is why we didn’t let them get to a 3rd down on our final defensive stand.

It's the Lane Kiffin thing. He is QB poison. TBH, I think history will prove you correct on Dart.

It's the same with the OL group. Why would you not continually churn that group? Worst case scenario, you are moving players because you can't pay everyone. I am too, TBH. I guess it's really more Dan Morgan than Dave. I am nervous that this "alignment" isn't skepticism but belief. I don't think Tepper will make the right decisions the next cycle. I think once again it will be either HC or GM being fired out of cycle and then another merger of the minds with the existing entitites. I am not of the "Oh Tepper has learned!" crowd. I think he has learned to not be such a fug head in front of company and that's about it.

Sounds like it's a good draft to take a qb day 3. One of those will definitely be there and all are an upgrade over Plummer and could probably beat out Dalton at this point

Moore. I am an Ole Miss fan who really loves Chambliss and i watched him every game, but I think he is very raw, comes from an rpo system that doesn't prepare qb's for the nfl, and is only about 6 feet. He really should have had like four int's in that last game vs. Miami. I also didn't think Dart was an nfl qb so what do i know. I would even take Ty Simpson, Nussmeir, and Allar over Chambliss if i were drafting for the Panthers.

Came across a pretty ugly stat today that doesn’t help ejiros case.. worst defense in the league vs 3rd and long by a long shot

I'd lock Coker up longer than a 2 year deal, would suck to not be able to afford him when we finally get a real qb

I'm already out on Canales. But as long as the players are behind im I will tolerate him 1 more season. I love hearing all their contracts are aligned so that indicates there's a plan when this inevitably goes south.

I never understood the whole wait until the next draft class. Always try to improve the room. If Bryce is or isn't the guy is irrelevant. Brady was Bledsoe's backup. Eventually NE traded away Bledsoe, but then drafted, developed and traded away Jimmy G and Cassell for quality picks because they were good enough to start somewhere, which is the entire point of a backup. Being able to start in case of <insert reason>. It's just part of the business in the QB room. Your job is secure until it's not.

Go out there and make it happen Dmo!! The Panthers are definitely trending upward so hopefully our "we suck" tax will be a little lighter this off-season.

Mendoza could be a generational qb depending on the coach he's paired with. Talk about hitting the qb lottery. From there it's a bunch of day 2 and day 3/ udfas left. Probably more day 3 than day 2 IMO.

This is why I have said that the last straw for me on Dave and Dan will be how they deal with that QB room this offseason. Improve it or I am 100% out and I will be calling for their heads until they finally roll.

The early draft articles are gonna be pretty sketchy. All that material gets better as real NFL scouts and FO folks start talking to journalists and draftniks. Also everyone will start locking into "draft mode" and doing serious deep dives as opposed to less surface level quick looks. This is projected to be a very weak overall QB class so it is possible some of those Day 3 guys make their way to Day 2 but I don't personally anticipate that happening to a lot of them.

Its all talk right now. Actions speak louder than words.

Chambliss in every thing I've seen and read is next up behind Mendoza and Moore (if he declares). I'm not talking rounds, talking next qb picked

100%. Jack Plummer, Hendon Hooker and Mike White are not serious options in any way, shape nor form. It should be someone that can immediately supplant Dalton as #2.

Love the idea and the player, he is literally exactly what we need to fill a couple of roles but it's highly unrealistic.

I will judge how serious that statement is by the quality of backup he brings in.

Seems like it's a bad thing if your defense fails more than even the best offense succeeds.

Chambliss??? Bro....he will be lucky to be a 4th rounder. I don't think you are reading this situation correctly at all. He is basically Malik Willis-esque minus the elite arm. Raw, athletic and needs a ton of polish.

Hopefully(for us) he isn't healthy enough to work out much. That will keep his draft position suppressed enough to get it down to Day 3.