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Smitty was a 3rd rounder. I’m not really saying draft one high at all, 3rd being higher than I have in mind for this year. I am completely with the people that say ‘enough’ high picks on “weapons for Bryce”. Enough of that. Don’t want a weapon drafted early, Yet Again. For that matter I wish we weren’t forced to address LOT because I want linebackers and big guys. And OL depth in the mid to late rounds. Maybe some late insurance at RB. But looking at the WR room and believing Moore is sort of redundant or maybe even not a great fit, and then just recalling the numerous calls for a burner, I was only really saying what I think would be the best type of addition.

I mean Rivers with no qualifications is probably better than the insane disaster that is Brian Daboll. Everything about their coaching search validates what Sabres fans have said about Pagula. That guy is an complete idiot.

If the Bills are even remotely considering Rivers everyone in that front office needs a welfare check.

With Josh Allen being part of the interview process, I actually think this has legs. Daboll or promoting Joe Brady would be the smart play here. But in a small market like Buffalo, hiring Rivers makes you national sports news for the entire offseason, and that's almost as important as winning.

I don't think he had a no trade clause, but very possible the Lions gave him the option of selecting the destination if all offers were equal due to his service with that organization. Still fun / sad to think what could've been had he come here like rumors had it back then.

He would only basically be a flat $24 mil to us until 2029. It's the hit to them that would be an issue.

I think Stafford chose to go to the Rams

In a perfect world I agree. But a Moose level reunion is not realistic in this era of the league with how crazy contracts are now. By comparison his contract with the Bears before he came back to us worth $30 million with only $12 million guaranteed. Compare that to DJ Moore at $110 million with $82.6 million guaranteed and have yourself a nice chuckle.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/47706170/bills-interviewing-philip-rivers-coaching-job-sources-say Shades of Jeff Saturday here. WTF is this???

especially since that was the only game we lost in the reg season that year

I meant to post that in the other thread about DJ Moore I just got the two mixed up in my tabs. I do agree we could use some speed. Unfortunately I think we are at a point where we have got to spread our resources around and with what we have invested in the OL already and two firsts in WR and the investments in the backfield it just reaches a point where you have to say alright if your QB and offensive minded head coach can't work with the offensive group as is they'll never succeed.

Damn, somehow this ended up in the wrong thread. Sorry.

I'd take him back if the Bears want to eat some of that salary.

It wasn't his fault he wanted out, not blaming him. Another colossal misstep by a front office that hasn't gotten anything right since we drafted Cam.

As I stated earlier, he only wanted out at the relatively last minute. Those are the facts. All you have to do is research it.

I don’t see what would make him so good with Bryce to be honest, that we aren’t covering now with Tet and Coker. We need a Smitty type. Easier said than done but those smoke screens and stuff, with two Moose types for people to worry about, seems better to me. A little guy with supreme quickness, that will fight for a ball thrown to him. Smitty was a very rare specimen. But try and get close. I think looking for straight up speed to go downfield, can’t really use it with Bryce. I feel like a speed demon would just outrun Bryce’s ball and have to coast on his deep routes to stay within range. You need a QB that will launch it 50-60 yards so he can turn on the afterburners and go.

I still can't believe Harbaugh took the Giants job knowing the Bills job was going to open up with anything less than a Super Bowl run by McDermott. Now he's stuck with basically the white Lamar Jackson, on and off the field, a RB who will be in the WWE in 2 years, and Malik Nabers who will want to be traded by the end of next year. Not to mention that division is an absolute gauntlet. Stefanski to the Falcons, unfortunately for us, is a great hire. He will see what a bum Penix is, make Cousins the starter and they will run away with the division for the next 2-3 years. The rest of the jobs are great opportunities to get a guaranteed $30-$50M depending on who you are and where you go, but there isn't a single job out there where you are going to win immediately other than Buffalo (where you have to deal with a front office undermining you) and Baltimore (where your QB purposely sounds like he has a mouth full of marbles and dresses like he's in a Bobby Shmurda video).

Folks complained quite frequently when DJ Moore was here that he was not a #1 and never would be. That was when he was still on a rookie contract and then briefly on the new deal we signed him to which now looks like an absolute steal compared to his current contract. If he were here now making what he's making we would never hear the end of it. Gotta turn the page.

I didn’t remember that. But extending the opportunity is the goal. If people reject the opportunity, that shouldn’t really be on the team. Now I can also see how that could be gamed by sending them to people you know aren’t interested, but they game it now from the other direction with interviewing people when they already have their minds made up as to who they want. Sending the invites to people no one has ever heard of, lower level guys not coordinators, that just seems like a front too. In the ultra rare ‘never happened before’ situation that just somehow happened, there could be a provision in place. Pretty simple to do I would think. After this discussion I would laugh pretty hard if it ever did happen.

Wrong thread.

Tomlinson was a dog. I think CMC is one of the best to ever play as a swiss army knife type of weapon. In terms of pure punishing bruising runner he cannot hold Tomlinson's jock. LT was a literal Ironman. 9 years with the Chargers never played less than 14 games in a season. Missed 3 games total. 12,490 yards. 138 touchdowns. That's an MVP candidate. Since 2020 CMC has missed 57 games. Fifty seven. You can't be the most valuable from the bench brother.

I never buy until that. The list of sub 5-10 NFL RB's is long. He is bulky enough but I think he just habitually overtrains and he gets a ton of mileage. That's my theory.

They aren't truly better post trade. Stafford was traded after the 2020 season. Dan Campbell became head coach the next year, Ben Johnson elevated to OC the year after that. That's why they were "better" post trade, until Johnson left. With those two calling the shots, and Matthew Stafford, the Lions would have at least one Super Bowl this decade. Also, Jamhyr Gibbs, Sam LaPorta, Amon St Brown, Jameson Williams, and David Montgomery were all added post trade, which would've given Stafford more talent than he was ever surrounded by in Detroit. With respect to Megatron.

Like we sent out a legit request to Ryans. He turned us down. He was a top coaching candidate that turned us down. I think that meets the standard. Bringing someone else in who isn't up to that standard just to mark a checklist is a bit insulting I would think.

Good for the Rams but the Lions weren't going anywhere with him. They're better off after that trade than they were with him.