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deng, Luol Deng

I mean, I was on record as team Sanders at the start of his college football venture. But Sanders has basically pulled the curtain back on himself IMO. Deion is the only one influencing me.

thinking 99% and 100% are essentially the same thing is being dense? LOL i will admit i did make a big mistake by actually reading comments in a thread again. i’ll go back to just watching camp videos and twatter updates, and stay away from the anti-bryce venom that spews over every thread.

And let me guess, you talked to all his teammates coaches and found this out from them? Lol...like i just told the other guy that sounds like a real personal opinion of dislike. The same dislike that team got all year from everybody else. Not gonna have nothing to do with a NFL team drafting shaduer long as he plays well.

Bryce, that’s your year to swim or sink. No pressure.

Lol..its not about you disagreeing with me. Im just stating all those things you said will be irrelevant in the draft process especially for teams that really need a QB. Cam had baggage, Caleb williams had baggage...once teams sit these guys down and get to know them they will formulate their own opinions as long as the production is there on the field Somebody will draft him if they really need a QB. Therefore your personal opinion of how good a teammate he is and how he flaunts himself doesnt matter. lol

and they won just a whole 4 games this year. with a completely overhauled roster in a pay to play world......with what some are pimping as a game changing QB. they didn't overachieve. I think they are poorly coached. I think they have poor leadership....and both showed down the stretch. Deion is a great marketer. Always has been. What am I talking about with the QB who did them no favors? He plays with his completion % and TD/INT ratio in mind. He avoids throws and opts for completions and he flat out opts to take sacks. Hard to debate that. All those sacks aren't on the OL. They weren't great. Call them bad. But plenty of big name QBs saw more pressure or comparable pressure...... and took less sacks. But team Sanders is about team Sanders and Shaduer going into the NFL. Not Colorado.

Shadeur probably struggled pre and post snap which made his OL look worse.

In addition to that he has us going QB in next years draft

Ranks Bryce no.4 behind Stroud/AR/Levis I just don't feel it with Young. And what do I mean by that? Well, firstly, I didn't see any flashes from Young as a rookie. You know, a few games-- maybe not even consecutively -- where he looked confident and poised and that combination led to quality results. There was the 300-plus-yard effort late in the season against Green Bay that stood out. But even if that game was encouraging, it was thoroughly outweighed by disastrous performances. In my weekly grading project of the first- and second-year quarterbacks in 2023, Young had one "A" grade and two grades in the "B" range. All of his other starts ranged from a "C+" to an "F." Yes, that Packers game was impressive; it's just too difficult for me to see him repeating that type of performance on a regular basis because of his lack of physical tools. He doesn't have a strong arm by NFL standards. It's not brutal, but it's not doing him favors frequently. He's a good athlete but not nearly dynamic enough to repeatedly make defenders miss or scamper away from oncoming defenders often. His accuracy and processing are his two strengths, but neither are so spectacular they negate his hard-to-improve weaknesses. The Panthers did make somewhat of a concerted effort to build around him, trading for underneath separator Diontae Johnson in March before moving up in the draft to select South Carolina's Xavier Legette. I still think Carolina's receiver group will struggle to collectively get open, but the offensive line should be sturdier with free-agent adds Robert Hunt at right guard and Damien Lewis at left guard. I don't have enough belief in Young's tools, nor the roster in Carolina, to predict Young making a leap in Year 2.

I don't know if you're being intentionally dense or if it just comes naturally but wow.

“99% sure” isn’t completely writing him off? splitting hairs don’t you think? sounds more like you’re being passive aggressive, and keeping that one little percent around just in case, so you don’t have to say you were wrong. speaking of icing up, son… LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL how’s that? amidoinitrite?

LOL......Colorado was a team that won 1 WHOLE game the year prior and brought in a new coach with a bunch of transfers the next year. Anybody could clearly see they overachieved last year just winning 4 games, the expectations were just mixed in with the Deion hype. That team wasnt ready to compete for real. Also that offensive line was one of the worst in college easily so what the hell are you talking about shaduer did them no favors? Please spare me with all this....that team was a work in progress and Deion said that himself. The other QBs already had complete teams built around them to compete....this is clear context.

what stats? i said “i’d say”. even during Cams MVP season you had several posters here say they don’t trust him to keep it going or that his showboating was gonna doom him in the playoffs. There are just a lot of negative Panthers fans in existence

that video/analysis did bryce and his supporters no favors, but anyone with a brain can see his bunny rabbit hops and long slow drop backs are a huge issue

video also says QB Bryce was horrible pre snap and post snap. That's how you make whatever your OL is......look way worse. And he wasn't good at that at Bama either per the guy in the video. He also spoke about how Bryce's size forces him too far back in the pocket. Which is going to screw up pass pro.

If you watched the video, they discussed how Bryce was constantly in retreat on his drops. I bet the "time to throw" stats would look a lot different if he didn't retreat. We all watched last year. If you want to argue our IOL play was average, go right ahead. I wont be joining you.

That's why I rarely read what anyone else says on threads like these. Opinions aren't really going to change in the offseason, only once actual football is being played. I don't envy anyone having to watch last season's tape, however. So many things went wrong that even just getting a realistic opportunity to succeed for anyone was too few and far between.

bryce up son and our franchise got duped by a kid that never took snaps from under center in college, how the fug does that happen?

stats and logical fallacies are fun to make up

Go back and read. I said I'm not completely writing him off. But yeah, at this point I'd honestly be borderline shocked if he works out. You're the one who acted like a condescending douche while failing at reading comprehension. Don't get butthurt about it. Ice up son.

well, I was assuming in this scenario Bryce was healthy. I mean, yeah, I wouldn't pick the top 16 O and it was Dalton that drove the bus. QB is the most important. Tough to get to get to a top 16 O without Bryce playing pretty well in year 2. I mean, unless our run game just is top of the league and can get us there with no pass game to back off a D.

1. Week to week improvement on offense and play calling. One more screen on 3rd down I might actually die. 2. Better Oline play (can't be much worse). 3. Consistent decent to good play from Bryce Young The rookies Either Mingo, Tremble , or Terrance Marshall Jr. (any one of them).

Sanders played last season with his personal stat line in mind. And did his OL no favors even if you want to call them trash. And I think you can legitimately question his DNA as a leader present day. Penix and Nix both played big boy college football....and won. Sanders won 4 games at Colorado and is on 6 game losing stretch.