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We actually kinda saw in Green Bay. It wasn’t pretty

Is there a real honest reason other than it's not nice that the Panthers shouldn't try and do that to Baker?

If you watched it, Simms was the real reaper. Tore him up. I saw what I posted yesterday and apparently there was another 5 minutes of discussion on Tua and how the Dolphins fuged up drafting him ahead of Herbert and whoever else (it was Love) and then fuged up again giving him the money. One thing I remember is Miami has to hide him in the big games. Another is Miami drafted the Alabama offense, more so than the player. Again, everything that was said IMO just put Bryce’s name in there and it is very much like what people here have been saying for three years now. Crazy. Watched that today. I remember people putting Tua as Bryce’s comp, in a positive light. You know, when they weren’t claiming he was Drew Brees the 2nd. I never thought anything of Tua either. And Bryce is smaller. Yay.

He's not entirely wrong. There were indeed people arguing that position. Wouldn't say they were the majority though, just a couple of the usual suspects. I didn't really follow the draft pick discussion so I can't speak to that. Ditto people being told they're bad for disagreeing (though of late I've been a target of that from the other side) As far as the wins, I don't know of anyone saying they wish we'd lost (although the "we should have tanked" contingent does tend to show up every December). What I have seen though are some folks who, even after a win, only want to talk about Bryce being bad. Sorry, but that's kinda silly. Heaven knows I wanted Matt Rhule gone but it still felt good when we won (not that it happened a whole lot, but hey...)

Looks better than Bryce. Could you imagine young throwing his ducks in this wind?

Mr scotts meds have kicked in

You do, the guy who doesn’t appear to grasp projection. as the entire board knows, I do in fact, take positions. The position here I have taken is that Bryce Young is a weak bottom tier starting QB, without NFL starting QB tools, that we must move on from.

The OP for one. Asserting that people blamed Bryce for the loss in the title of the thread. That was not the prevailing sentiment at the time this thread was created. Very much a minority thing, I don’t remember but maybe one person if that, putting it on Bryce as the main reason. Troll thread. Did a good job too. Look at the pages. Someone counting up the draft picks as 10 on offense and 10 on defense or whatever the number was, today or yesterday - of which the offensive ones were heavily 1s and 2s and the defensive picks were heavily day 3 and declaring that proof that the offense wasn’t favored like people claim. The obvious neglect we watched for two years. I spent time refuting that bullshit because someone needed to. People saying we are bad horrible people and hate poor lil Bryce for no reason, as if it is a personal thing. Constantly. Along the same lines is people saying we non Bryce fans would rather lose than have him play well and the team wins. That we are mad when the team wins Point illustrated.

Pretty sure he hasn’t

Might not have been in this specific thread... As far as the other, I'm not necessarily reading every post that isn't responding to me so I don't think I saw that. Mind you, we've certainly seen the "not a real fan" stuff on here before.

I don't ever use LOL, but LOL at the group of five rule. Please keep this rule in place so me and my friends can pay our mortgages each year betting. If you wanted TuLAME or Shames Badison in this CFP, you a dumass.

Psychologists call this "projection".

If they did I didn't see it. But at the end of the day this team is not going to get more eyes on the product on the field getting swept by the Saints with the division and playoffs on the line. As far as people forming their own opinions and conclusions. I can and will debate in good faith with anyone that is willing to listen and engage and I will try to give someone the benefit of the doubt. But when someone assigns designations onto others such as not being legitimate fans or being the problem holding the franchise back because they aren't singing the company tune to their liking 24/7 that is where I will push back because this franchise is what it is. But it is not a perennial contender where people can draw a line in the sand and tell people they aren't real fans. But that's what I've seen recently and given what's transpired it's even more egregious because the fans want a winner. But if the Panthers can't or won't step up and take it that is on them. The fans are not to blame for it.

Nah, you are just wanting to argue everyone is wrong while pretending to own no real position. It’s what you do. It’s old hat. and it’s why they shouldn’t of compared Jimmy to you

I remember liking Blackburn when he was here but haven't followed him since. Ben Kotwika is a longtime, decently respected ST coach if I'm thinking of the right guy.

Packers are awful in the redzone

Malik Willis is still in the league?

Florio has always been a narcissistic dick As far as Tua, he certainly seemed to have some NFL level skills, but it's starting to look like they've been beaten out of him.

Trade for Willis

I didn't even remember there were games on today. Our house is in the midst of final.prep for family Christmas gatherings. I've been looking for an escape but all the exits seem to be covered

Pretty sure he's led us in rushing more than once.

He has his own mind. The one thing we agree on is we don't like dumb reasoning, even if it comes to the same ultimate conclusion.

This is the year he has to put it together. Year 3 is when most goalies breakout. He is still young, but he has benefited from extensive action on a good team. Most guys that see this much action, this early in their career are either all-world or get shellshocked playing behind garbage defenses. There is still time for him. But, the clock is definitely ticking.

Some taking part in the discussion here have admitted to not actually watching the game.

Holy fug that is some insane wind.