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Or start threads bragging about it

I don't trust him either, but I can hope.

Gotcha. If they do anything past picking up the 5th then it's more of the same old. Even picking up the 5th for a qb that is avg 175 yards a game is wild. But it's the teppers so who knows

Did you bet against them too? Real fans don't bet against their team.

Not rehashing the Bryce convo, but looking to see who our potential targets could be going into next year, and how viable they may be. Most QBs in the league are below, with more attention to those that could be cut, traded, etc., and seeing who we can talk ourselves into. Will Dave think he can fix damaged goods? Are any of these guys even worth the hassle? The way that I see it... Untouchables, Not Happening Mahomes, Allen, Lamar, Herbert, Burrow, Maye, Hurts, Baker (Division rival, not happening) He's Finishing His Career Here Matt Stafford - Sigh. What could've been if that trade would've gone through Aaron Rodgers - Please...just finish your career already. We'll Listen to the Call, but Not Happening Dak - Contract is crazy, Jerry Jones is crazy, so who knows? Another embarrassing end to the season and lack of playoffs could make Jurruh do something crazy, but not this crazy Jordan Love - A sneaky one if things magically went south with LaFleur if his inconsistent play continued, but GB would be dumb to even consider Jared Goff - He fits perfectly with the Lions, why would they? Sam Darnold - See above. The way he's playing for the Seahawks and just being signed? Nope. Cam Ward - No chance they give up this soon...but could see how his honesty in the media has rubbed many the wrong way in Tennessee. New coach incoming, FO is a mess, ownership is a mess...crazier things have happened. Young Guys With Promise Don't Get Traded Jayden Daniels - The injury sucks, Washington was bound to regress, but he's not being traded CJ Stroud - He's regressed, but the Texans have committed malpractice with his offensive line and running game. He's shown glimpses of greatness, which they're not giving up on for at least another season. Caleb Williams - Hasn't shown as much as the two above him on this list...but still not happening. Bo Nix - Sean Payton loves him, can't see it happening so soon. Jaxson Dart - No chance, rookie, etc. JJ McCarthy/Michael Penix - Penix isn't coming here because Atlanta. But lumped these two together because they've largely shown nothing, but aren't getting moved, and no where else to put them. Maybe...But the Contract Is Tricky Trevor Lawrence - New HC may not love him, his up and down play and lack of living up to the hype? Sounds like a Dave Canales reclamation project to me. Cap hits aren't awful for the next couple of years before they balloon...but the dead cap means he's Jacksonville's for a bit. Kyler Murray - The favorite in the clubhouse to pop-up in trade rumors after being effectively benched in Arizona. The contract has a few years left at $40-50+, and he's not worth it...but somebody will talk themselves into it. Brock Purdy - His highs have been higher than some of the "lesser" QB's in other categories, but it's San Fran and Shanahan can get me to play QB. Just signed the contract though, so they may have buyers remorse, but he's not being moved. Daniel Jones Can't see him leaving Indy, he's going to get "paid"...but we did have interest in him last year I believe. From Charlotte...but do we trust Daniel Jones to continue on this path, or turn back into a pumpkin. Depends on the rest of the season. The Starters Who Suck Jacoby Brissett - Starter in Arizona now...but will it stay? NC State ties, but he's from Florida. Could see him being a target to upgrade Dalton next year via trade, or the Cards cut him and save some cash in which case we pounce. Tua Tagovailoa - Miami would eat an ungodly amount of dead cap, and the new team would inherit an awful contract that balloons to $65 mil in 2028. With a new coach likely, I'm sure they could try to move him. But...gross. Geno Smith - Canales connection, Las Vegas hasn't been good for him, contract is easy enough to move? Ehhhh. Mac Jones - Back-up thrust into the starting job, but how much is Shanahan? I'm sure most of it. Could improve our backup spot over Andy, though. Justin Fields - Wing-T up in this bitch. Some Experience, Damaged Goods, Some Actual Free Agents Spencer Rattler - New Orleans isn't trading him here, makes little sense to cut him. But, they'll be in cap hell as usual, and could be drafting another to go with Shough. Rattler could be the odd man out. Carson Wentz - Could be had for cheap, but he's maybe slightly better than Andy Dalton at this point? Please no. Jake Browning, Joe Flacco, and anyone that's played QB for the Browns and/or Bengals this year - - No thank you. Even if Flacco could sling it one more year. Russell Wilson - Please No Marcus Mariota - Would make some sense, but blah A lot of back-up level guys that nobody would be excited about that I'm not listing because I'm tired of typing. SO...in conclusion... Traded upgrades to Bryce that have *any* chance of happening while ignoring contracts for a second - Geno Smith, Kyler Murray, Trevor Lawrence. Crazy Darkhorses based on nothing other than my brain and won't happen - Jordan Love, Cam Ward Free Agent Option that will get overpaid and could turn back into a pumpkin - Daniel Jones I think Bryce is staying, we draft a mid-round guy, and bring in a Jacoby Brissett Marcus Mariota type to round out the room. The entire above exercise is pointless, but also wanted to lay everything out and see if anyone can convince me of someone we could go after, or if we're doomed to hopefully getting lucky in the draft.

https://www.derp/carolina-panthers-roster/56634/carolina-panthers-win-streak-is-masking-substandard-quarterback-play-bryce-young

A future Contract, which in this context is purely hypothetical.

In regards to his hand picked "franchise qb"? Good luck dude. Im with you but he's not going to be able to help himself

Love the thread title btw

Still hoping Tepper keeps his word. (winning increases the odds)

What exactly are you negotiating?

I get the idea. I'm just not sure how that plays out in a real world negotiation when agents and egos get involved.

Kaye:

Hated the Cowboys before the Panthers existed and will always hate them, their ex players, their owner and their fans. I don't feel that level of hate for any team in our division. I dislike Saints and Falcons and indifferent towards Bucs. In fact I probably dislike the 49ers and Rams more than Bucs honestly.

I suspect with this attitude you are not long for this message board but keep going i want to see how this experiment ends

FWIW when a player is going to a bunch of teams like this, the first team is usually their preference. They just want to make sure the money is right. If they leave they’re gone.

Some more film breakdown this time highlighting the Panthers offense vs Packers defense. Interesting to note the Panthers were facing 8 man boxes throughout the game amd still were able to rush for over 160 yards against the Pack. We're not talking about Miami or Dallas defense here, we're talking about Green Bay the 3rd ranked defense against the run going into that game selling out to stop the run and still struggling to do so.

It isn’t you asshole.

I was just looking at Doug Flutie this morning. A better passer than Bryce and I think maybe a better runner. You know what he had to go through to make the NFL? A whole lot. 4 years of being a top CFL guy, had to take a big pay cut to be a backup in Buffalo, just to get his foot in the door. people wouldn’t give a shot because of his size. They were smart back then. He was legit, did more than anything Bryce has shown so far, but these modern participation trophy types just handed Bryce an NFL starting job. And we are still waiting for him to prove he deserves it.

question for the casuals: if Bryce and the Panthers are so bad, what has you spending hours on a fan forum daily racking up tens of thousands of posts claiming the latter?

No kidding. You can’t tell about most players, even SEC players, until they are in real NFL games. College just ain’t the same.

He was terrible to start last year, he had a hell of a streak and then he got injured and never has really produced much since. At this point, the good games appear to be the outlier. Evans has popped immediately and looks to potentially be our best TE on the roster. Give him more reps. Could backfire but what are we losing by reducing Sanders snaps?