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That's debatable. He has looked good in any event.

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I did also. I hope he gets a big catch and run in the second half. Damn. I know that there was some speculation about a snap count. Honestly, I hope that's the reason he hadn't done sh¡t so far.

He has elite traits, but he's no Bosa right now, or even Watt.

I understand what you're saying, but the market is the market. It's his turn to get, perhaps, overpaid by a little bit, but not a lot. His age and potential is unfortunately a factor. All we can do is hope that he reaches his potential.

Burns absolutely does NOT deserve Bosa money. He should NOT complain about Crosby money. That's basically in the ballpark where he needs to be.

Not sure why anyone would be mad at him playing out the 5th year (or not), but I'm not grossly overpaying for his services just because he feels that he has the team over a barrel. The fifth best money in the league at his position seems about right. It's "fair" in my opinion.

He wasn't as excited as when we traded for THE Baker Mayfield.

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I never took issue with you saying that we're going to win X amount of games, I just disagree with you that it should be some litmus test on Fitterer and company's future viability.

But he didn't.

You're comparing apples to oranges though. They were two totally different situations with two different contexts. I don't think it's necessarily stupid to have your position, and I'll excuse you for seemingly lashing out by trying to incorrectly characterize giving rational reasons as to why Fitterer shouldn't have been fired as stupid. The fact is that both positions are rational, but I still believe that your position is ill-advised considering the context. Scott Fitterer was not the man in charge, no matter what mental gymnastics you are using in order to insinuate that he was. Of course after Rhule was fired, the dynamics changed.

For me, autocorrect is a blessing and a curse

And don't get me wrong, Fournette would be nice at the right Dollar Store Dave price, but I can't say---you might be able to---but I can't say that at this time in their respective careers that Fournette is a better option than Chuba.

Chuba, as I've been saying for a couple of seasons now, is simply just highly underrated on the Huddle. APY: $1.048 million (rookie contract; 85th among running backs). Hubbard took a big step forward as a runner and receiver in 2022, with major bumps in yards per carry (4.9, up from 3.6 in 2021) and yards per reception (12.2, up from 7.0). And he averaged 5.0 yards per rush between the tackles last year, per Next Gen Stats, tying for eighth in the league. While free-agent acquisition Miles Sanders forecasts to be the primary back in Carolina, Hubbard's importance and reliability drive a ton of value -- especially while rookie QB Bryce Young adjusts to the NFL game. https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-s-most-underappreciated-players-kirk-cousins-osa-odighizuwa-among-nfc-picks#:~:text=Hubbard took a,for eighth in the league. Hubbard was quietly efficient behind a Panthers offensive line that got into an excellent groove on the ground in the second half. Hubbard averaged 4.9 yards per carry and even showed an evolved ability to impact the pass game (sixth-best yards per route run). https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/2865693/chuba-hubbard/fantasy/ Hubbard, according to Next Gen Stats, was actually the most efficient rusher in the league last season. His 3.18 efficiency rating, which is calculated by taking the total distance a player traveled on rushing plays per rushing yards gained, ranked first amongst all ball carriers in 2022. https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2023/05/30/panthers-rb-chuba-hubbard-underappreciated-next-gen-stats-miles-sanders/ I just don't know what some of you are/aren't seeing. Like I said in an earlier thread: some of you must expect the guy to run through walks. Chuba is like one of the better backups that there is. I think people just hate him because he was a Rhule pick (Julie and Matt).

Young will save a lot of jobs, or lose a lot of jobs. They pinned their livelihoods to the little fella. Don't let him flop and Stroud explode. That's the worst case scenario for Fitt and the entire staff (the Huddle and all fans).

I don't understand why people are trying to make a big deal over Howell...and I've seen a mention of Brock Purdy... Yeah, everyone saw that coming. All an FO (obviously including the GM) can do is make decisions based upon current information. Sometimes they get it wrong. Sometimes they get it right. There is no perfect FO. They just can't show a track record of compounding errors year after year without consequences. But there still has to be some perspective from the owner, least they want to be the Browns or Jets.

It's difficult to determine where Rhule's responsibility for our current state of the team ended and Fitterer's responsibility began, but for the day Rhule was fired. That's the only clear line of demarcation that we really have. [Not to mention, that we know that Rhule had full roster control] As such, I would be surprised if he is axed after the season. I think that Tepper did an accounting before he axed Rhule. He decided that Fitterer would have a certain amount of time to right the ship. Being that Tepper seems like a relatively patient guy, not given in to knee-jerk reactions, I believe that the only thing that would get Fitterer fired after this season is a gross waste of resources. That was really the big no-no that Tepper mentioned in his first presser after Rhule was axed. So far, in my opinion, draft picks (plus D.J. Moore) that we spent relative to the value that we believe we're getting with Bryce Young was a good transaction. So we're good on that front. I don't think that anyone can argue that the cap isn't in great shape. So far, mission accomplished. Fitterer appears to be playing the long game.

Not in love with Wilks or Reich until proven otherwise.

It doesn't matter anyway because Fitterer has done things a little differently since Rhule was axed.

Rhule was on board with Corral until he got Baker. Some of you keep forgetting that the acquisition of Baker is what really made Rhule flip the script.

Yep. The staff sees more, and knows what they're looking for as far as progress. Sure, he had a bad passing game last week, but that's only what the public was privy to. All these Huddlers with their crystal balls saying Corral, Thomas, Henderson, Hubbard and YGM were going to be cut were simply blowing hot air.

Not buying that he wants to go somewhere. He said otherwise. Corral's NFL experience, if nothing else, has probably been very humbling to him. He likely knows that he needs more work to get where he wants to be. He may revisit that next off-season, but at this moment no one's giving him a starting opportunity or even a number 2 gig (nor should they). He has several highly regarded coaches here who know the position (and the NFL knows this too), so he'll continue to be developed, and perhaps at some point he'll get his shot as a QB2 here or elsewhere. If he can't do it here, I don't see why others would think that he can do it wherever, unless Reich and company give him rave reviews or he shows considerable growth by this time next year.

Girl didn't even get off her phone. Damn!

Sixth best yards per route run. That's efficiency.