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Jackson, played well (11 PBU, and 3 INTs, 10 in his 3 year career), he's far from garbage, injuries are a concern, but he gutted it out through injuries and is one of the few guys that generates turnovers. Troy Pride is also not ''garbage'' he continued to improve as the season went on. Due Jackson's size he's more of a #2 / match up option, but that's what bigger DBs like Melvin or Rasul in the past are here for. I think we will draft another corner that is 6' + to add more size at this position to continue to allow us to better match up versus the 6'2'' + WRs in the NFC South (Evans, Jones, Thomas).

Image credit to (Panther Nation Podcast on youtube) When you think about the pieces we have, and what was added, we may have just created the most versatile front we've ever had from a position flexibility standpoint. (Image is for reference only, not an indication of the depth chart for this discussion) If rotational guys like Haynes, and Miller who's returning from a ''high risk'' opt out along with Roy continue to provide valuable snaps this defense could be in for a surprising year, a true-center fielder as Chinn / Burris are more natural strong safeties, and another corner with good size, and some IDL depth we're set up pretty good heading into the draft. I think we've set that side of the ball up pretty well, and in contrast to last year, I'd anticipate a offensively favored draft. How are you guys feeling about things now?

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1372306425742041098?s=19

Good read / clips with details on what we're getting with this lineman. https://theriotreport.com/film-room-how-does-pat-elflein-make-the-panthers-better/

Because we aren't the only team that needs OL depth, OL is one of the least talented position groups overall in the NFL. Just competent play, or below avg play will see a guy get signed.

Miller - $3,970,000 was what he earned in 2020 (Erving comp) Schofiled - $1,500,000 '' '' (Elfein comp) These signing are on par when you look at guaranteed money / length. 2M guaranteed per for Elfien a former 3rd rounder, and 8M over TBD as the details are pending on Erving a former 1st round selection by CLE. Considering coach Rhule has OL coaching chops at the NFL level, I'm willing to see this play out. Reed wasn't even an FA signing during the traditional period, so naturally he'd make less.

You have to replace the depth we lost, neither Miller, or Schofield had high merits and played well, as bad as people here mock the OL they finished middle of the pack last season even with all of the injuries. We don't have the cap to sign a top tier FA on the OL, the price is too high, so the thing both these guys add is the fact they can both plug and play anywhere on the OL. Elfein - G or C Erving - T, G, and C These are value signings, and allow us to BPA in the draft is needed in case an OL prospect we like is not there.

Going back and reading these old scouting reports can be funny... https://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2017pmahomes.php https://medium.com/sportsraid/the-nfl-draft-scouting-reports-patrick-mahomes-blew-away-bb0871f5808 https://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/for-petes-sake/article224076765.html The point being no one ''truly'' knows what's going to happen a lot of it is based off of preference, Cam had a similar ill regard around him when we had the #1 overall pick. In most cases the team does their homework on these guys, and to be fair, when we talk about Lance, he possesses a lot of traits that translate to the NFL, will he need time, it's possible, you don't know until you have them in meetings, practice, etc. And considering TB's contract and dead money he may be here to be that bridge QB for a guy like Lance who may need some time. But IMO, you draft traits that can't be taught (athleticism to change the game, and arm talent, dudes don't get clocked by GPS at 20/21+ MPH by accident)

Or maybe go watch some film...they even covered the pro style aspect when Wentz was coming out of that school as well. Do some homework, just because a former player comments, doesn't mean it's always backed by research. There are plenty of terrible takes from former players in the media.

He talking out his a**, NDSU runs a pro style drop back passing game, lazy analysis. However, with Lance's skill set they can DO MORE THAN TAHT. Hell even LSU, ran the RPO, and option offense with Burrow. Hell, if he watched a Panther's game he'd see we did that with Teddy too. Jones isn't a franchise QB, he's more of a system fit than Lance since he is limited athletically. And if we were to draft a guy like Jones, you may as well just keep TB who is better than Jones.

If somehow they make it work with tier cap, hats off to them.

Fun times, Brian Burns' brother calling out #91 on twitter...

No, that is all.

This Mac Jones hype has got to stop...he's not better than Hurts, or Tua -- please stop. End PSA

Is it the determining factor, probably not. However, it is well documented he was in support of it. The argument for Teddy over Cam made sense, UNTIL you turn on tape. Problem is the tape on Cam was injury riddled for 18 & 19. I think most educated fans knew it was a bad move, but transition wise for the team Teddy's contract isn't detrimental and the first thing I thought was 3 years, means he's gone after 2 years. It's a lot easier for a rookie QB to replace Teddy, than it would be to have replaced Cam. This was the best way to lose games, while winning some. Teddy even in NO was limited in those starts as a passer, NO just had a much more complimentary roster. I mean imagine a healthy Cam with our guys on offense now and behind what was actually one of the better Panther OL when all the ''starters'' started.

Rebuilding the backend

Faith in New GM, +1

ST guys are not considered starters in the mainstream setting. Even if he's the ''starting'' snapper.

Or they do neither and take the BPA at OL / WR, let's include all three options ''triple-edge sword''. Their OL is old and they may be able to take Sewell / Slater at that spot. They're WR room is old as well Jackson / Jeffrey (Goodwin opt out) -- Jalen Reagor about the only bright spot at that position for them (maybe Fulgham as well) -- Waddle / Chase / Smith all have a chance to be there as well. So while I'm not saying they won't take a QB / or trade back, they don't have to do those things either.

But we got one more morale win, I understand the coach / player perspective on ''winning'' meaningless games. Personally I think they just wanted to beat Ron, as we clearly sat it down the rest of the way IMO. I think they were already prepared to do what is needed to bring in a different QB via trade / draft day (trading up if necessary). My question is what does this do to PHI's cap considering the guaranteed money?

Remembers hating this move, still hates this move. Cannot believe we actually did it, only saving grace is it's easier to come on after TB vs Cam. TB was the antithesis of Cam...