SmokinwithWilly

You're not allowed to have this conversation or you're a hater.

I have no doubt they're going to exercise his option. I also have no doubt Dalton will be back and we won't even try to improve our QB room because we're good there and Andy is a good mentor for Bryce.

He's never had to compete for the starting job. Why start now.

One of the first things that crossed my mind. Stroud lobbied for Dell in Houston and they drafted him as a result. If we drafted XL because his father was lobbying for him it's definitely worth noting as bad as he's been.

Depending on the amount of the guaranteed cash, it could be 4. The signing bonus really.

I can. And depending on the reasons, the person rooting for failure could have a legit reason. Or he could just be trolling. If my options were choosing between a 5 year 250m contract and secured as our future franchise QB or Bryce imploding and being cut based on his overall performance thus far over his career, I rooting for the latter because I believe the first is a far worse option for the franchise's future. It all depends on how you view things. I'm not actively rooting for him to fail, never have, but I still don't see him as a franchise QB worthy of a franchise QB contract.

So people being pessimistic based on 3 years of performance and what could be deemed inconsistent at best this year is perfectly acceptable then?

Then you better have been chewing a whole lot of ass on this board because I'd say over half of it is actively rooting against Evero to be fired, XL to be benched, and other starters on defense to never step foot on the field again because they're bums and it's been that way since Week 1. As long as it's not Bryce it's OK to rip anyone else on this team to shreds.

This one has to go to Ransom. He was on the field. He made the game winning play.

Taking a look at their QB room with Tua looking like ass. Already out of the playoffs. No reason not to.

If you didnt know it was fixed watching SB50 I don't know what to tell you. There was no way they were letting Manning go 1-3 in SBs. It's just gotten more obvious as time as gone on.

I didn't move the goal posts. But anyone who follows football who wants to engage in a rational discussion can't argue that 10 7th round picks are equal to 10 1st rounders in value. The argument has always been we haven't spent as much on defense has we have on offense. Draft picks have value just like salary. We have not spent the same amount of draft pick salary cap on defense that we have on offense since drafting Bryce. It's not even close. Just the 2 1sts we used on Bryce, 2 overall 1sts have a value of 6000. That doesn’t even factor in DJ Moore or the 2 2nds. Bryce cost more than everything we've spent on defense in 6 damn years.

So from 20-22 of those 14 picks on defense, how many are still on the team. 2. Two whole picks. 2023 2 defensive picks in the 3rd and 5th rounds. Neither on the team. 2024. 2 and 1 on the PS. 3rd, 5th, 6th and 7th, round picks used. 2025. 2,3,4 and 5 spent on defense. The entirety of what we've spent on defense doesn't even equal the one pick we used on Tet in trade value chart for draft pick exchange. You could argue we spent 30 draft picks on defense but if they were all in the seventh round, the value of those picks is next to nothing in terms of contribution. Day 3 picks rarely make NFL squads. They only make the Panthers because our roster is so threadbare as it is. Again, we've spent next to nothing on defense in terms of value picks on defense. If you're going to argue we've spent more on defense than we have on offense you're going to have to use a better argument than this.

You know why we've spent so much in FA on defensive contracts for next year? Could have something to do with next to nothing spent in the draft on defense until this year. When you don't draft anyone on defense you have to pay for them. You also have 2 1st round WRs and your QB on rookie contracts for next to nothing against the offensive cap for their position and a LT that hasn't been paid his top 5 contract yet. Care to try anything else?

I like Icky but he was the wrong tackle to take. Learning run blocking is much easier than learning pass blocking. Cross was pass pro ready. He was the tackle we should have taken without hesitation.

The first might have been a smart play by the defender. Let him go, illegal man downfield. If it was, great play by the D lineman. We were always taught to get to the ball even if the whistle blows. Never let a ball sit for just this reason. Weird poo happens. Better to have the ball in your hand when it does than not.

Sounds like there may have been a Time Life series or two in your household at some point.

Our line is built to run 1st, not pass block. Our LT was drafted as a run blocking mauler, not the pass pro ready. To top it off, our coach can't recognize which RB is actually producing in game. Another issue is we have a QB that can't play effectively from inside a tight pocket. He can't see the field. His sight line is below the shoulder pads of most linemen. Stepping up into a tight pocket is essentially going blind for him. Top OL play is always going to be an issue because unless we can keep huge gaps, his field vision will be limited. It's why he's so quick to bail and scramble. It's why I can't do floor seats with my wife. I'm 6'3 and my vision still gets blocked. She's 5'3 and she's blind. It's front row or regular tiered seats.

I don't know how you can say he did a good job fixing issues. He doesn't even recognize issues in game. Situational awareness is one of the things he lacks. He's probably one of the least flexible coaches I've seen. We do the same thing over and over. Defending DC offense is pretty easy. Stack the box and make Bryce beat you. Either he will or he won't.

I'm honestly looking beyond DC at this point. He's too green and is making too many simple mistakes. I think he's gone after next year. I think the intention in LV was to use Mayer and Bowers similar to Gronk/Hernandez in NE. That's never really struck me as Carroll's MO though after watching him for years out here in Seattle. He's talented enough and I think he just got lost behind the phenom that is Bowers because he couldn't develop in Carroll's system. I'm surprised Bowers is used as much as he is, though they really don't have anyone else. TE's don't really exist as focus receivers in Carroll's offense. I live in the PNW so I've been subjected to a lot of Seahawks football. Coaches other utilize their TEs. We should too. Tremble is OK, but he's always been a project as a receiver. Again, all this is of we could get him at the right price. I wouldn't pay a lot because we need to spend on defense.

If possible we should look at Mayer out of Vegas. He's disappeared behind Bowers. I wouldn't spend a lot but it was rumored he was on the block earlier this year.

Unfortunately under Tepper we've been exactly that. This is year 8 of whatever the fug this is. Maybe it gets better. Maybe it gets worse. It's hard to even remember what mediocrity felt like anymore.

In order to get in, Cam has to actually retire. I don't believe he's done that yet and has no intentions of doing so any time soon waiting for an opportunity for a comeback.