SmokinwithWilly

I'm probably one of those posters, but I make those posts because there are too many things going on that don't make sense. For instance, how does a RB that does something that hasn't been done in 14 years immediately get reverted back to 2nd string, and it takes a leadership council to make him the starter when he's averaging 3x the YPC? Your average fan shouldn't be screaming that for 2 weeks before the coach sees it. And that's one of many. What you're seeing is frustration that we could be better, that we should be better, if our owner, FO, and coaches could do things that are so painfully obvious to even the most basic fan

He wont play on the 5th year either. Its going to be a 200m contract or nothing. Are you paying 200m based on what we've seen so far?

We need to start asking him to pass the ball though. In 8 games we have to decide to extend, cut or 5th year option which will still end up in an extension. Can't make that decision if he's not being asked to do the caliber of things that 40m AAV QBs do.

Right. Im just pointing out game plan makes a difference. Using Rico and his 6 YPC gave us better down/yards to go than Chuba was. Easier to pick up 4 in 2 downs than 6 on 3rd. Longer sustained offensive drives, longer breathers, more time to compose and analyze what opposing offense is doing, etc. Makes a DCs life easier. I give Evero his props, he's bounced back. My biggest frustration was his lack of willingness to adapt when things weren't working. He seems to be doing that more now. Though I wanted to reach through the TV when I saw DBs 10 yards off on 4th down.

Right here. But part of his success is what I said from the beginning. You cant expect the D to hold up when the offense can't stay on the field. All of a sudden we're doing what our offensive line is built to do, using a RB with burst and vision, and our defense is staying fresh and it shows. Conversely, vs Buffalo. We didnt use our best back, our offense looked like poo, our defense was gashed then gassed, and got run over all game. Pretty damned predictable.

Any team coached by Bill Bellichek Any team reffed by a Hochuli. Cowboys Any NFCS rival.

He's not playing on his 4th year so we're either going to have to extend him or pick up his 5th year. If we pick up his 5th year, that 18m AAV for what's realistically backup level play. If we do an extension, I'd expect his agent to want in the 35-40m AAV range on a 4-5 year deal with 80% guaranteed and about 50-60% as a signing bonus. Can't do that either based on current level of play. Puts us in a pickle. Can't extend him, and do you pick up the 5th year knowing you have to bring in a legit 2nd QB to compete for the starting role, who we also have to pay decent money to and eat Dalton's dead cap, plus pay Icky franchise LT money. It's all a mess.

All I could think of with him on our PS.

He was definitely on an all star team. Look at Bama and Georgia's recruiting classes vs the rest of the SEC. In just Bryce's class, Bama and Georgia had 10 selections each of the 63 NFL draft picks. That's 1/3 of the draft class between 2 of 16 schools in the SEC and that's 1 recruiting class of 4. They have had the number 1 recruiting class 8 of the last 10 years and been #2 the other 2. You can't even pretend like Alabama is even remotely close in talent to the other SEC schools other than maybe Georgia. It's a landslide in their favor. Correction: in 2018 they had the 5th overall. Other than that, since 2014, it's been 1st and 2nd overall.

My guess. Brock Purdy and the S2 test. Mr Irrelevant Purdy had a breakout year and his S2 score was high and so was Bryce's and that test was supposed to be the end all, be all of QB tests where the Wonderlic was so unreliable. Remember, Stroud's results were leaked and he was being portrayed as an imbecile before the draft based on the scores. After their rookie season's when Bryce had one of the worst statistical performances ever and Stroud went to the playoffs, the S2 pretty much disappeared into oblivion as a determining standard of QB viability.

Can we trade Dalton to the Jets for Wison? Guaranteed number 1, 2 and 3 with that level of QB suckage.

And are pretty much guaranteeing themselves the number 1 overall in the process. No need to trade up for a QB.

This is how you tank a season

Smartest thing the Jets could do right now is hire Marty fugging Hurney

Just listing the trades in their entirety.

3 1sts, a 2nd, DT Mazi Smith and Adonai Mitchell for Williams and Garner.

Plenty of guys do enough to win on Sunday. That doesn't make them franchise QBs. Brissett beat Dallas last night. Think Arizona is ready to crown him king? What did Young do Sunday that you wouldn't expect from any other QB in the NFL on any given Sunday? I'm not scared of him succeeding. I want him to succeed. Succeeding is the best thing for this team. But I didnt see one thing on Sunday that made me think that guy is a franchise QB. 8 games into year 3 and I'm still waiting to be able to say that. Bryce did what was asked of him which was not much and nearly nothing compared to other QBs in the league. At some point, he's going to have to be able to carry a team from start to finish with no running game and beat a team when there's actually something on the line, not when we're already eliminated. You cannot give him franchise QB money when he hasn't had a single franchise QB game performance.

Audoni Mitchell also sent to the Jets as part of the Sauce deal

Jakobi Meyers to the Jags for a 4th and a 6th.

It's why I was so pissed about Dalton this offseason. We needed to pivot and move into a better position. Whether it be a Jones, Brissett, Howell, Winston or another option, we could have positioned better with a 2 year contract with any of those guys. Brissett or Howell 1st, I dont think Jones would have taken a backup no shot at starter role, and Jameis is what he is, but still better than Dalton. Either way, If Bryce didn't work out, there's someone to play next year and we're not forced into a bad FA trade or pickup or even worse, another trade up for a rookie QB. Just some thought put into the QB room with a little future strategy in mind. Also, on the chance Bryce does work out, and gets injured, you have a better backup to carry on any playoff aspirations. Win-win scenario. From what we've seen so far, I dont see how we can offer an extension or the 5th year, and I can't see Bryce willingly playing his 4th with no guarantees moving forward. He's been backup quality and you can't pay 18m AAV for that level of play. It's not a bash fest on Bryce. This is where we are now with 8 games remaining in a pivotal contract determination year. JMO, but this was poor planning by the FO, most likely driven by Tepper himself. Again, not Bryce's fault for the overall QB room situation, just where we happen to find ourselves.

I’m sure they know it. I’m also fairly certain Tepper told them he doesn’t give a poo.

I kept waiting for him to explode into a cloud of dust when he got hit.

They probably would have if DC had used his brain and been less worried about offending Chuba. Rico was ripping off runs at 8 yards a pop. Use him to wear that rested defense down, then use Dalton. But instead it was Chuba for 2 over and over. It wasn’t difficult to do, DC just refused to use some common sense.

That contract is a dawg