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more patriots hate lol but yeah I don't think Maye will be a franchise QB for them or ever win a playoff game with them. we shall see but that's my prediction

Kraft is a piece of poo and got lucky to have Brady/belichick

The patriots are in as bad of shape as we are. Maye ain’t their answer whether he sits a year or not.

To the Chiefs for their 2nd, he'd fill the hollywood brown gap they have

we'll see dude, but I've been optimistic like this every year under Tepper until now and it's come back to bite me every single time. I'm trying ringo, I'm trying real hard to have any amount of optimism about this team/Morgan/Canales, but in the words of Jules from Pulp Fiction, that sh*t ain't the truth.

What moves has he made that are objectively good so far? The guard signings seem to be fine on the field but paying that much $ to the interior OL which is quite a bit easier to get in the draft than OTs is still a questionable decision IMO. Defense is an absolute mess all around, probably the worst pass rush we've seen in team history. Our cap situation is a disaster this year and next with the roster being terrible all around. Draft was underwhelming with zero immediate contributors. Dan was a significant part of the front office that led to most of this mess and this offseason did nothing to show that we're on the path to turning it around.

Horn isn’t on IR yet

I’d take a conditional 7th in 2030 that becomes a 6th if he’s still in the league that year.

Nah he just sucks our line wasn’t even that terrible last year. Not good but not so bad that it would break an otherwise good QB

Tepper truly deserves all the hate he can get. He's the man in charge of this disaster of a team and unless things turn around he can be hated on for anything and everything.

Last snap probably not. Dalton isn't exactly Mr. Durable these days. I don't think he starts another game for us though. If Dalton goes down, Bryce relieves him then a different QB starts next game(s) if an extended absence for Dalton.

Yeah and although not at QB they've had an absurd amount of elite NFL talent come out of there.

This is a silly narrative. I wanted Stroud and hate Tepper as much as the next guy, and we never should've traded up at all in that draft. However, Bryce was unanimously a top prospect and by nearly all accounts if he was bigger would've been seen as a near generational prospect. This is not just a Panthers failure but a failure by pretty much all NFL scouts/media/fans/etc. that were high on him coming out of college. The biggest (only?) knock on him coming out of college was size and oddly enough that really hasn't been an issue whatsoever. I do not buy the narrative that he can't see over the line or that his issues reading the field are due to size. Kyler, Brees, Wilson, etc. have had no issues with that being similar size. The transition from college to NFL is just impossible to completely predict. He clearly isn't cut out for the NFL and it sucks but nobody was "gaslit."

Yes we are all rejoicing not having to watch the midget play, and yes he deserves the Eric Cartman treatment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTcGDIJPYcc But let's snap back to reality here. We were outscored by 60 (SIXTY) points in weeks 1 and 2. Average 30 point loss. Maybe Dalton helps us shave off 20 of those points, I'd consider that a huge success. Still an average 10 point loss. This team still sucks. Don't try to kill reality:

I don't agree it's "much better." Bryce has been absolutely god awful, but the D has also allowed the most points in the league and as bad as Bryce is there has not been a single bright spot from the offense around him. OL is yet to be seen, yes I saw the stat on pressures but it paints an incomplete picture considering Bryce panic checkdowns so quickly. I'm not sold on Canales' scheme yet either. We will know much more following Sunday's game with Dalton starting. This year's team might be better than last year, but I'm not convinced yet.

Maybe, we'll see. I think this would be much more likely if Dalton and Young were competing for the starting job from day 1 of the offseason (which Dalton would've won and then he could build chemistry with our new OL and receivers, of which we have many). And while I have nothing against Dalton, if we had gone into this offseason viewing Young as a guy competing for a job and not a guy being handed the job we could have a better option to go to, or start with -- a Minshew, Darnold type.

Hopefully somewhere else if so.

There was definitely a mandate from Tepper for Canales to start Young and hand him the job from day 1. I think Tepper saw enough in the first 2 games and finally said fug it do what you want. However now we're crippled because the offseason was approached with that "salvage Bryce" mandate.

If we could guarantee we get another team within 5 years, then yeah I’m 100% for this.

Reich killed himself in Indy

Yes we’ve been saying this for years. Need Tepper to hire an established consulting firm to hire the leaders of football ops and the only thing Tepper should do is open his wallet and sit on his fat rich ass in his box and watch the team. It’s not gonna happen ever though. His ego is bigger than Jerry Jones’.

Idk man, CJ here would definitely be much better than Bryce but last year we still probably don’t win any more than 5-6 games, and CJ wouldn’t be anywhere near OROY. Reich just was not a good HC. I’m basing that mostly on his Indy tenure and I didn’t want him when we hired him either, so Tepper/Bryce have very little to do with it.

WOW! Seriously though, well-respected doesn't mean you're a good HC. I always viewed Reich as an offensive version of Rivera. Rivera actually has a better win % than him. Reich only made the playoffs with Luck and Rivers (Rivers was obviously at the end of his career but still a legit above average starting QB) never with "garbage QB play." Look, don't get me wrong, Tepper made Reich's job here wayyyyyy harder, but Reich was never a great coach and it was so stupid to go with a retread hire at the time, especially him.

Dude he was part of the problem for sure. Maybe hamstrung by Tepper forcing his hand on certain things, but even with Bryce being terrible, Reich did an awful job last year too and wasn't even that good for the Colts. It was a bad hire from day 1.

As a fan I never want to see the dude suit up for us again, not even as a 3rd string benchwarmer. HOWEVER, at this point just play him the rest of the year, secure 1st overall in 2025 then release him. No point in having Dalton try to win a few games to push us to like 8 overall.