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Mingo done for the year with foot injury
ColumbusCounty replied to mrcompletely11's topic in Carolina Panthers
Like I said in the pff thread. Mingo was barely a top 10 WR in my eyes ..for him to be the 5th taken is WILD to me. Downs, Reed, Rice, Hyatt, Dell... We picked at 39...the receivers stayed on the board until the 20s iirc.. JSN, Johnson, Flowers, Addison ...then Mingo!?!? Incompetence. Maybe Mingo turns into Sanu/AJ Brown...rather than TMJ reincarnated. He has flashed so thats a positive but it doesn't bode well when 3/4th of a message board are annually better at identifying talent than our actual scouting department. -
DJ Johnson.... Projected round: NFL.com: Round 3-4 Sports Illustrated: 5th round NFL Draft Scout: 4th round NFL Draft Buzz: 7th round PFN: End of the 3rd Projected everywhere in the draft. Pretty sure we panicked and gave up pick 93 and 132 to move up to 80 for Johnson. I still hold out hope that Evero saw something I missed. Majority of our draft picks look like UDFAs. That said, our scouting department needs a revamp. I get potential BUT.... There is not even a parallel universe where Jonathan Mingo was thought of as a top 5 WR. Honestly, Mingo barely made my top 10. We even fugged up the #1 pick and I won't even mention Zavala. They still need time to develop but early returns aren't looking too good. Lol, it's actually insane when you think of every move we've made since Fitterer was obtained. Letting CMC go for everything but a first and leaking we turned down 2 1st rounders and a 2nd for Burns will always be a talking point. How I got here from a PFF post idunno. They all graded negative from what I saw. Burn the whole thing down. Keep Derrick Brown though.
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A little optimism for the offseason..
ColumbusCounty replied to recceice's topic in Carolina Panthers
Xavier Worthy in the 2nd Ricky Pearsall in the 4th + Thielen, a more confident Mingo, ISM and sign Shenault on the cheap.. the last two are critical to what I'm picturing. And bring in somebody to help them develop. Side note: Imo ISM has more upside then any receiver on our roster currently. -
Panthers Vs Saints 1PM Gameday Thread
ColumbusCounty replied to Panthers Fan 69's topic in Carolina Panthers
Lol don't think I've ever seen Kamara thrown like that -
Assuming we fix our line in FA or move Icky to Guard with Christensen at LT. Ima keep saying it.... Xavier Worthy n the top of second(WR) In the 3rd: If Chubba is still on the roster, pair him with Jahwar Jordan(RB). If we need a true #1 Audrick Estime (RB) ...I'm not a fan of Sanders. Ricky Pearshall in the 4th (WR)... and he's probably going to climb up every draft the closer we get but iirc we only have 2 WRs on contract next year: Mingo and Theilen.. Linebacker, and Guard/Center in the later rounds. Worthy, Pearsall, Theilen w/Estime. If Bryce can't get off any better with those weapons, he'll never figure it out at this level. If we end up with the first pick in the 2nd, I expect our phones will be going crazy. Its usually about 3-5 players with first round talent that drop draft night. I just don't trust Fitterer in the war room.
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I gotta feeling we're going to see alot more Smith-Marsette and Blackshear. If anybody on this staff knows thier explosiveness it's Tabor. I'd also guess we're going to run the ball more. And yeah this Sunday will be ugly. Not as bad as Wilks first game imo but it has the potential. We still lack offensive weapons + our oline has been battered to death. And nah this won't be a Wilks 2.0 situation (lack of talent/injuries) but I do think he can win more games than Frank did. Just don't give the Bears the #1 pick.
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Nathaniel Hackett didn't last too long last year iirc.
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I can't rag on Ekwonu too much because I think the potential is still there. He would probably be a Pro Bowl G though. So basically we took (in order): Bryce over CJ ...Fitt Ekwonu over Cross...Fitt Jaycee over Surtain..Fitt .... what we got right: Brown over Kinlaw (came close to bust status around here his first two seasons) ...Hurney under Tepp Burns over Sweat...Hurney under Tepp DJ over Ridley (100% the right pick)...Hurney CMC over Henry (about the same)..Hurney One GM hit on every pick and not just the first but the second as well (in large part and excluding Little). One man is still looking to claim he grand slammed his first. The closest being Horn, who is extremely talented yet never available. Common factor: Fitts has to go. Combine all his FA acquisitions + the draft and his hit rate is so low it should be alarming. Reich isn't the only one with a chair "on fire".
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He's not my top choice @ the moment (or back in April) but I gotta say Bryce is tougher than I thought. Amazingly x10 times more durable than Jaycee. Thought the man was broke in half about four times today. The best thing this org could have did after drafted him was sit him ... We'd probably be at least 5 wins in with Dalton. Which is crazy since that would have probably been enough for first place in the division. If I can see this...along with CJ being the actually pick... it just blows my mind that this 70+ years of NFL experience staff can't. I'm guessing it's Tepper forcing hands BUT Tepper didn't pick DJ Johnson in the 3rd. Bad decisions everywhere lol..I NEVER would have thought '23 would be worse than the Clausen year. Summary: This post is all over the place. Just like the holes in our roster.
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2 WRs to Target in the Next Two Drafts
ColumbusCounty replied to tukafan21's topic in Carolina Panthers
Depends on the blocking scheme we use. If it's zone again ... then we'll have more questions than answers. In a Gap scheme we could actually play to our current lineman strengths particularly in the run game. And in Pass pro we'd atleast finally have a somewhat answer to stunts. Depends on our coach. -
2 WRs to Target in the Next Two Drafts
ColumbusCounty replied to tukafan21's topic in Carolina Panthers
2nd Round: Xavier Worthy or Egbula (if he slips). 3rd Round: Ricky Pearsall. His route running and hands are insane imo. Not a 4.3 guy but his technique will create its own seperation. -
Donte played his ass off .... Brown also. The amount of hustle he plays with every game is commendable. Hell not resigning Brown might hurt us more than losing Burns, if that was the case.
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wait ickey has been good this season?
ColumbusCounty replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
Dave Chappelle voice: O hell nah -
Side Note: First THREE games of the year stats: Allen: 786 yards,5 TDs, 3 INT, 1 Fumble, 54% completion on 93 attemps.. sacks (2).. (Out of the full season he had 5 games without a passing TD and went 3 games throwing under 100 yds. (OC: Brian Daboll iirc) Young: 503 yards, 2 TDs, 2 INTs, 3 Fumbles, 65% completion rate...103 attemps..sacks (11) ...has thrown over 200 yards once. (OC: Frank Reich) Take from that what you will. And for fun... Clausen(Full Season): 1558 yards, 3 TDs, 9 INTs, 9 Fumbles, 52.5 completion..300 attemps...sacks (33).. Smh
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I get it...he has potential. BUT their is no reason we shouldn't have pick up a serviceable option to compete when BC went down. And if he's that bad, how awful are our backups??
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The impressive throw you wanted from Bryce
ColumbusCounty replied to TheCasillas's topic in Carolina Panthers
I'm still shocked at how much we regressed in under a year (and thats with the upgrades). Smdh.. P.S.. I like the throw to Chark but the one that Ian dropped in the endzone was nice too. -
Cam Defenders vs Bryce Defenders, maybe a pattern?
ColumbusCounty replied to RumHam's topic in Carolina Panthers
Big Cam fan ... And tbh, insert him on this roster atleast we'd be watchable imo. Never was big on Bryce but he's the QB now. Rookie qbs typically struggle which is forgivable BUT at this point the current struggles far outweigh the current benefits. CJ was my pick ... I just felt he could do everything Bryce could do + add a running threat w/o the injury threat. The Ohio game and even the elite 11 competition made that evident for me. We should have let him sit and locked him in the weight room his entire rookie season. Not giving up on Byrce but it's not looking good out here. We haven't had a winning season in years but atleast we "did" have hope... Side note: I think Bryce was Moreso Tepper and Fitts. I think Frank and McCown wanted CJ. Short of Thielen, the entire offense has been disappointing. -
Panthers expect Bryce Young to miss 1-2 games (Athletic)
ColumbusCounty replied to Samppson's topic in Carolina Panthers
"Young’s average of 4.2 yards per attempt is the third-lowest for a player’s first two games NFL history with a minimum of 50 attempts, according to ESPN Stats & Info." I knew it was bad but damn sir -
Who would you rank as top 5 Panther draft busts of all time?
ColumbusCounty replied to TheBigKat's topic in Carolina Panthers
Most disappointing 1st rounder I've seen in the last decade here would probably be Vernon Butler..off the top of my head. He played like a 5th-UDFA. Also Everett Brown was pure awful bro. So awful that I almost put Burns in the same category just for coming out of FSU. Horn will be back. He's not a bust, just has an extremely bad streak of injuries. 2 freak injuries and friendly fire. His play when avialable is undoubtable. And I'd like to assume that he's nowhere near thrilled with how his career has gone so far. He does have the pedigree to work his body and mind out of this. He doesn't belong on this list. -
Bro.... u serious ??? Your seriously underestimating how bad that season was. It did net us the #1 pick and Cam...but Clausen was undeniably awful here.
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Will YGM have a Hardy breakout year
ColumbusCounty replied to TheBigKat's topic in Carolina Panthers
This!! .... Haynes quietly put together a 5 sack season last season in a rotation. He's also the record holder for the most sacks in Ole Miss history iirc(Hardy's old school) ...if I were a betting man, that's where my money would be for breakout. Similar to Mario Addison. I actually think YGM is fighting for a roster spot at this point. -
Homerism aside, I still gotta say Cam's Auburn season was probably the last time I've seen a qb step in and absolutely dominate with an average to below average supporting cast. Burrow had a nice season but he had NFL ready talent everywhere on the team. We may never see that again in the current era. Iirc, finished college undefeated at Auburn w/ the Heisman trophy and a national championship. Then came to Carolina and later led us to a 15-1 season w/ an MVP designation and a Superbowl appearance. I put Young in the same category (Burrow). To be clear.. I originally wanted Stroud (after watching both players vs Georgia) but Young has grown on me the last few months. I'm expecting alot of tough weeks but the next 3-4 years look extremely optimistic if he can stay protected and he develops anywhere close to his full potential... The only question I have at this point is whether he can deliver the deep ball accurately at this level. Will he have enough time to? ...I'd say his floor is Teddy Bridgewater ...but his ceiling is Brees. But ay, wtf do I know... all opinion