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Looking right so far. We can't do poo diddly.

While this staff is making excuses for it taking time and the offense not being there, we just had an offseason where we traded for a QB, drafted 2 WRs, RB, TE, 2 OLs, signed 4 OLs, signed a TE. This is the product. What if I told you that week Rhule was signed, before Luke retired, while we still had Cam, we would be looking at Sam Darnold, Ian Thomas, & Ameer Abdullah leading the way come the end of our second season? Our TE1 isn't even the guy he signed OR drafted, our main pass catching RB is a Detroit castoff, and our QB a NYJ castoff. Just putrid. Just another negative thread but we shouldn't lose that this is all after an entire offseason with really an offensive focus. They were able to handpick like every player minus CMC & Moore. This is just stupid roster building.

Hopefully all black including debuting the black helmets for the funeral of the franchise next week.

Will watch redzone and best game available starting week 1 instead of once we’ve been eliminated from the playoffs.

Would’ve been nice to have that second rounder

He thought he was being so ballsy throwing all this money at Rhule. NYG are laughing at and thanking us at this point.

Honestly, I’d prefer not to strap in at this point. There is a ton of avoidable problems we are deciding to run gale force into. I’m not willing to stand by as a fan for that. Cut the loss before it becomes a greater one. This could set us back even further if we keep Rhule another year and if this is the precedent being set, I’m shut off next year. I’ve got the Hornets, Cubs, and Blackhawks. I’ve never been so no sh!ts given about this franchise and it’s been in my life for some time.

Ian has been wrong before. I really hope Tepper doesn’t go down this road. Going to lose fans.

Mark R. Was the deepest guy that quietly paid out of the South Park madame deal. He actually tried to leave his fam because he was convinced he loved one of her associates. The family basically negotiated him to be a Kendall Roy.

I could see Strong going mid to late R1 to Pittsburgh or New Orleans and doing quite well off the bat. Huge improvements for those teams (Big Ben is shot, NO has no QB but managed a respectable season). If his knee checks and he lands in that type of situation, could end up producing like Mac Jones has (or dare I say even better). Pittsburgh would be really interesting IMO. Could also see Detroit taking a gamble in R2 on a high upside QB like Willis or Ridder if they fall. Atlanta could be looking at a grooming-type situation behind Matty Melted-Ice R1. That's a team I can see targeting Pickett or Howell; could be a lot like Arthur Smith had to work with in Tannehill in TEN. They would need to target a bruiser at RB to compliment the young gun. Puts us in a place where I think Corral could be our more ideal target with or without Rhule. Has the agility/dual threat to make up for a bad OL if thrown in early. Love the upside, the intelligence you hear, his competitive nature, locker room leadership. Lot's of good intangibles, great arm. Simply needs some polishing but I see him far ahead of the other "high upside" types in Ridder and Willis. The Broncos, DC Redwolves, & Houston will be the ones to watch. Would prefer to be picking ahead of them.

Things be spinnin'. His presser just now was pretty laughable, pretty sure the media was told not to ask about his status but they definitely were pressing him on the article. He didn't deny anything, simply that he wouldn't comment.

Good article here: https://abc11.com/sports/meet-the-2022-nfl-draft-quarterbacks-stats-background-and-analysi/11396852/ On Corral: On Ridder: I love Ridder's upside but deep and intermediate ball placement is so critical to stretch the field and it's been forever since we've had it. On Willis: Also illustrates why I love Strong so much: I think a lot goes back to what team's look at with readiness. Would you prefer an athletic guy with more of a curve in his passing game and mechanics? Or a guy that has it all in the passing game minus the more optimal athleticism they seek these days? I just think Pickett and Strong have the best feel to a game's flow. Corral has the most overall upside with intangibles+arm+athleticism. Depending on who develops them (and how) there could be a super good QB in this crop. Just depends on the situation and growth. I see it in Pickett, Corral, Strong, & Ridder the most.

Please just fire him now and get it over with. I'd prefer to see what a new coach can do with this team after purging the Temple/Baylor faction. Imagine what Hackett, Bienemy, Eferblus, etc. could do. Who they could bring in. How they could work with Fit as a tandem and not grand surveyor. 2022 could be shaky but they focus on building an OL, getting tougher on D and then land a QB in '23. I have to think that's the path out of this hell.

...not just to be a contrarian: 1. Matt Corral 2. Kenny Pickett 3A. Carson Strong 3B. Sam Howell 4A. Malik Willis 4B. Desmond Ridder NFL Scouts like Strong a lot more than the website rankings show. He is the best pure QB in the draft but Pickett's year puts him just an edge ahead (along with being a tad more mobile and no knee concern). I just love his decision making, deep ball, and downfield accuracy. Hard to teach those. Unsure about Willis and Ridder but love Ridder's upside.

There was something about his exit. He saw that we didn’t have pure film room football junkies coming in. Moreso talkers and schemers—O mean, Luke craves the study of the game and you can tell these guys don’t when there’s zero nuance or creativity to the offense or game planning. They talk up themselves like these new gun analytics junkies when it’s really vanilla “talkers”

There's 3 big BS components to this interview that he talked-up well enough to land the gig: (1) His philosophy on the team he wanted (2) His desire to have a true vet help build the team with him (Meyer, Snow, Nixon, meh lol) (3) Overall, diverting their attention, attempting to make the interview a recruitment/big picture/vision session Strikes me as a guy that knew what to say but I'm unsure if he's even really bought into the build he spoke to. We are nowhere near what he described. So many things should have been done differently if he wanted this defensive stalwart with a power offense. Don't forget Kuechly then surprise retires a week after this article and doesn't sty on to be a coach type thing but keeps popping up for McD & Beane. And he had the entire 2020 season to dismantle and start rebuild pre-Fit. This is the result. Notables: Didn't rush to extend CMC/had a better contract out with him being a RB Power run you say? Tristan Wirfs you say? Wills? Rashawn Slater? Sam Cosmi? Nope, we went for the JOATs that aren't good at anything like Elflein, Erving, MJ. Puke Unceremoniously release Cam, eat $20 mil only to sign TB for like the same amount a day later. Let us not forget that single week of happenings. Wat His year-1 major UFA signings (pre-Fit) were Teddy Bridgewater & Robbie Anderson. You know what could've looked pretty cool?: 2020: 1-Tristan Wirfs/Wills, 2-Jalen Hurts 2-Jeremy Chinn 2021: 1-Rashawn Slater (Heck, wouldn't be mad with Horn if we landed Wirfs/Wills prior) And could've just kept Cam until it was clear Hurts could take over. But a digress, so many other scenarios and options with Mac Jones, etc.

I was there when Dallas came and we beat their sh!t TWICE. I saw the Jake come up against JAX, the awful Cards debacle. I am a mother ******* fan who has honestly come from a line with NFL heritage and I simply am fed up. That’s it.

I’m not trying to press we’re better or whatnot. We have invested since OG hornets coliseum days and we’re done. Not posting at the hope we could be swayed, it’s Christmas and my dede is pulling (let’s just say a lot) of PSLs. Bad look locally, bad look in Philly and Chi-town

Well to be fair, he sells most tix living out of state but they aren’t flying back on the Douglas strip anymore. It’s a big loss

Didn’t want to post on Xmas but this is interesting… So my pops got PSLs year 1, our name is on the north entry Panther statue, his company on the east. He is officially selling all of his PSLs. The opinion on it is simple: He thinks they are boring, doesn’t care, and simply doesn’t think we have competent people at the helm. He is simply done. I’m chicago these days, don’t care a ton but love my Panthers from far away. Tepper is losing the people who helped build this franchise. Christmas conversations lasted maybe 30 seconds on the team. EVERYONE hates Matt Rhule to the point where they don’t even wanna talk about him. Crap dude with no plan. Happy Holidays.

It’s like we went from watching a bad blockbuster movie to lifetime made for tv stuff

That would hamper certain things but if anything, you would think that would make getting some help with NFL level coaching experience even more critical. He has refused it thinking he has some identified success route. Too much BS for my taste. And I’m a late changer with turning on him.

We all love this team. That’s why we waste our time on this Zod-Ian plane. Question is—why in the hell are you okay with this product after 2 years with Rhule?

Read the room. We’ve got every corner of the fanbase and 94%+ of this board aware of reality. Stop while you’re ahead hombre.

Signed