Mr. Scot

Would you spy him though? That to me is the threshold for determining a true dual threat QB.

You sure it hasn't been already? I saw an awful lot of holding go uncalled last night. At times, it was like watching Jon Runyan play every position on the line.

I wouldn't put any of those guys in the Cam Newton tier of run threats. Allen is probably the closest.

Big ego is not exactly an uncommon thing among NFL players. Confidence is one of the things that gets them where they are. One complaint though: Nobody should refer to themselves in third person. It's really cringeworthy.

Everybody else is...

Ouch.

I agree that defensive linemen are more athletic than before, but that was also true back in the days of guys like Reggie White and Bruce Smith. The quality of blocking all across the league has taken a real downturn in at least the last decade or so.

Was talking with LG about that too. Even there though, the reality is that while there are plenty of reasonably mobile quarterbacks, there are precious few true "dual threat" quarterbacks. Honestly, outside of Lamar Jackson, who in the league right now would a defensive coordinator have to account for as a possible dangerous run threat?

I actually do remember some people knocking Marino for his lack of mobility. Don't know for sure but I think it might have been one of the reasons why the Jets passed on him. Obviously, he overcame it.

Honestly, part of that is because offensive line quality has gone way way down. Now with that said, mobility is great as long as the quarterback is an effective passer first and foremost. I don't think the idea is his new as people think though. When I was a kid, Fran Tarkenton was a big deal, and he wasn't the only one of his kind.

I'm not a fan of hamstringing the defense, though I do understand why the NFL wants more offense. One thing I have to admit gives me a chuckle: I remember being told numerous times since Michael Vick that running quarterbacks were going to "change the game", yet I sit here watching the league continue to evolve more and more in favor of passing. The reality is that passing has trumped running since the early days of the AFL, and I seriously doubt that's going to change. A quarterback who can also run? That's gold. But if they can really only effectively do one or the other, you better hope they're a passer.

I'd have to agree. Heaven knows you have phenomenal athletes in the mold of Julius Peppers playing defense these days.

It is when it's 3rd and 1.

From Ellis...

My one solid belief in Darnold is that he's infinitely better than PJ Walker. As to whether he's good enough to be a franchise quarterback, I've said many times I don't know. What I do know is the PJ Walker isn't, and there's no real evidence that he'll ever even be a solid backup. Again, he's just not good. Bottom line: your response here is more of this same stupidity that's got you on the ban list already, so I can't have a whole lot of sympathy for you.

That actually makes it worse. And to be clear, nobody's anti PJ so much as they are anti delusion. He's just not good, and stating that you really believe he is tells me you don't know jack about football. Bottom line though? You've gone way overboard with this bullsh-t (including that ridiculous response to Rayzor above) and nobody's gonna miss that silliness when you're gone.

I mean hell, we've got people on here who care more about the game being entertaining than they do about winning. I think it's pretty dumb myself, but that's just how some people think.

I don't really think this needed to be moved, but okay. Yeah... Pretty much every source agrees that's not happening. The next time Newton is a Panther again will be when he retires.

He looks like a high schooler playing in the NFL. Honestly, that was the feeling I got watching Jimmy Clausen too. With that said, I do think Wilson's skill set is a lot better than Clausen's was.

The Shadow is a very underrated movie.

Probably because this act, which was stupid to begin with, has gotten really old and tiresome. You can say something like "oh, I'm just trolling". Okay, but then you shouldn't be surprised that people don't want you around. You should have figured that out when your recently posted thread was universally sh-t on.

He can't.

Not for all of us

...but the ice is slippery