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You don't play through a high ankle sprain or an AC separation(depending on what grade). That isn't smart for him or the team, regardless of the postion the team had been in.

Arbitrary in what way?

I don't need to. Your dipshittery stands on it's own.

Damn, Sizzlebuzz has an alt?

fug that....can you imagine what our 2015 team could have done with our offensive line? CMC with that line still probably doesn't net many victories because he was mainly here while we have been poo(outside his rookie year). With that 2003 line on our 2015 team, Von Miller is stuffed, Cam Newton stays upright and we dust those motherfugers for a title.

I would say it's statistically unlikely. With the contract he has, we definitely need him to be that outlier or it is going to be one of those classic Panthers flubs. I would really like to not add any more to that pile. We have two more of them currently sitting on our books as it is(3 more if you count KK's dead money). I think 2021 will be critical. If he can remain healthy, it will ease some of the pain of the price we will be paying.

If it is not an injury based shitting the bed, it obviously puts the whole franchise on the hot seat. Then you go from looking like an aggressive staff, front office and owner to looking like early Dan Snyder and the Foreskins. However, if it is just one bad season and he returns to form, that would dissipate quickly.

That is probably better off being a programmed or database thing. It would probably choke Excel.

Oh I am in no way shape or form mad at HIM for taking that deal. Get your money. I am mad at Marty Hurney and our front office at the time for making such an unbelievably boneheaded decision. There was absolutely no reason to sign him with 2 years remaining on his deal and had we just not done that, we'd probably not be paying the ridiculous sum that we are now. But, that is Hurney 101, dump unholy money into positions of lower value or guys that don't deserve it(and this is definitely not CMC). Yeah, CMC is the second dumbest contract we have. Teddy is by far the dumbest.

Not making it to 11 to 12 years isn't retiring early. RB's have an average career length of 2.7 seasons in the NFL. It is rare for them to play even 10 years.

It's rarer for QB's to put up video game numbers in losing efforts than it is for RB's to put up video game numbers in losing efforts in the modern NFL. We will get to see a good example of how that works out in Los Angeles this year. Matt Stafford is a top 10 QB that has been on a dumpster fire of a franchise. I'll be curious to see how that works out. The biggest issue with RB's is that they rarely change teams in their prime, because their effective years are so unbelievably short. By the time CMC's contract is up(assuming he makes it to that), he'll likely be a shell of himself. That's just the way it goes for RB's in the NFL.

And I would have been okay tagging him twice. At that point, you are likely past his prime and it's easy to move on. Then you take five relatively inexpensive years and have two expensive years(although less than his average contract now). Remember that CMC was a top 10 draft pick so he has actually been a top 10 paid RB in the NFL almost his entire career. That's a big downside of taking a RB in the top 10 like that. I am not advocating for jettisoning him now. It would be detrimental to what we are doing. However, if he is banged up the next two seasons, I will be rattling sabers to cut him. We can't keep investing bad money in players that can't stay healthy(see KK).

The $8 mil was arbitrary based on looking at the salaries during that period. That seemed to really be the line that differentiated the high paid backs from the rest of the crowd. What is actually surprising is how those numbers have actually trended somewhat downward over the years. It will tick upward the next two seasons, assuming there are not restructures or cuts that happen. The issue with cap percentage is that the cap has raised significantly in the past 10 years and setting a percentage might be challenging. If you set it based on some of the top 5 guys from the 2010-2013 range, it might exclude a lot of backs in the 2016-2020 range. I don't know if you can cleanly accomplish your last bullet point only because the dataset would be MASSIVE. That would take some serious time to deduce, although it does sound like an interesting idea. I think you have to also adjust for cap percentage usage, as well.

Let's see how that breaks down. I did this for Peppers years ago when some doofus Saints fan tried to compare Chicken Legs Jordan to him. Rushing Yards CMC: 61.7 career YPG Faulk: 69.8 career YPG LT: 80.5 career YPG Games to reach Faulk: 148(9.25 seasons) Games to reach Tomlinson: 171(10.67 seasons) CMC: 0.57 career Rush TD/G Faulk: 0.57 career Rush TD/G LT: 0.85 career Rush TD/G Games to reach Faulk: 125 games(7.81 seasons) Games to reach Tomlinson: 204 games(12.72 seasons) Receiving Yards CMC: 52.4 career YPG Faulk: 39.1 career YPG LT: 28.1 career YPG Games to reach Faulk: 81(5 seasons) Games to reach Tomlinson: 40(2.5 seasons) CMC: 0.31 career Rec TD/G Faulk: 0.20 career Rec TD/G LT: 0.1 career Rec TD/G Games to reach Faulk: 65(4.03 seasons) Games to reach LT: 4(0.25 seasons) Total Yards CMC: 114.1 career YPG Faulk: 108.8 career YPG LT: 108.6 career YPG Games to reach Faulk: 111 games(6.92 seasons) Games to reach LT: 111 games(6.92 seasons) Total TDs CMC: 0.88 career total TD/GM Faulk: 0.77 career total TD/GM LT: 0.95 career total TD/GM Games to reach Faulk: 104(6.46 seasons) Games to reach LT: 133 games(8.30 seasons) So, the biggest question will be his longevity. As you can see here, both of these guys played 11-12 years in the NFL, so he needs to be able to maintain or exceed his level of production for the next 6-9 seasons to be able to surpass their total yards or TD's. You are correct that he is quickly walking down their receiving production, although he is pretty far off the pace in rushing yardage.

It's a purely speculative article. I honestly don't see them very interested in CMC and probably not Robby with just a year left on his deal. Not to mention, why in the world would they want to trade for Teddy's contract? That just seemed like an excuse to get Panthers fans thinking about dumping a couple of bad contracts in Teddy and CMC. I would think the Texans, assuming they have any intelligence in the front office, would be way more interested in our players on rookie deals and our draft picks.

This isn't the first idiotic take he has had on here that completely backfired on him. It's kind of his calling card.

That's maybe the dumbest take in the last few weeks of really dumb takes.

WR would be easy to do a side by side, similar to RB's. The pool would be equally diluted as the RB pool due to multiple players being utilized and less #1 overall WR's. DE would be a little more complex because you really have to agree on what you want to consider critical aspects of their production. Sacks are obvious, QB Pressures and Hits are important, turnovers forced, maybe tackles for loss. That needs some fine tuning before you could do a good comparison. LT would be extremely difficult. You have to rely on a lot of subjective data to get you there. PBWR, RBWR, PFF ratings, Sacks Allowed, Pressures Allowed, etc. I think OL stats are the most difficult to isolate because they operate so much as a unit that when you have the guy next to you screwing up, it might impact your play pretty considerably. I suppose DT play could be considered that, as well. It would probably be easier to judge OL/DL play on the entire unit than specific players, although pass rushers are probably easier to isolate.

More likely he just doesn't know the roster.

403 touches, which was more than any single season that Adrian Peterson had. Hmmm....wonder if maybe that is why he spent all year injured?

FWIW, this is what it cost in total RB salary to get a top 10 rushing offense in 2020(asterisks for playoff teams). *Ravens: 3071 yds, $7.5 mil *Titans: 2690 yds, $8 mil *Browns: 2374 yds, $6.6 mil Patriots: 2346 yds, $7.7 mil Vikings: 2283 yds, $7 mil *Saints: 2265 yds, $9.6 mil Cardinals: 2237 yds, $10.5 mil *Packers: 2118 yds, $5.4 mil Eagles: 2027 yds, $2.5 mil *Rams: 2018 yds, $3.1 mil These are the salaries of the top 10 rushers in 2020(asterisks for playoff teams). *Derrick Henry - $6 mil Dalvin Cook - $4.6 mil *Jonathan Taylor - $1.4 mil *Aaron Jones - $2.2 mil James Robinson - $0.6 mil *David Montgomery - $0.9 mil *Nick Chubb - $2 mil Josh Jacobs - $2.7 mil *Lamar Jackson - $2.6 mil Melvin Gordon - $7 mil In 2020 a total of 2 RB's in the top 10 of pay appeared in the top 10 in rushing yards. In 2020 a total of 3 teams in the top 10 of rushing had backs in the top 10 in pay.

I believe I have done one of these for the top 10 rushers in the NFL regardless of salary and the results aren't terribly different. It's a QB league. Anyone with any sense knows that, it's why all these teams are trying to sell the farm for guys like Watson or trade for Matt Stafford or move up in the draft to get one of these top 4 QB's but there haven't been any offseason rumors of teams trying to acquire CMC, Kamara, Cook, Henry, etc. Hell, look at the incoming RB projections. It includes some stud RB's but they are behind all those QB's, a pile of WR's, OT's, DL, etc. People can shove their head in the sand all they want but there is a KC made the Super Bowl with ~$4 mil invested in RB's(one a first year rookie) and Tampa made the Super Bowl with ~$6 mil invested in RB's.

You know this list includes Adrian Peterson's NFL record rushing season, right?

Calm down, get your morning coffee or maybe your sedative.

So, #8 overall in 2021, our 2nd pick in 2021 1st round in 2022 3rd round in 2023 CMC Teddy Robby Anderson The draft pick haul isn't bad, although I wouldn't want to jettison our 2nd in 2021 given how deep the OL draft is. I feel like we can get a starter with that pick. The players are some good and some bad. We get to jettison our top two worst contracts on the roster but it would also result in a total dead cap hit of $27.2 mil in 2021 for those guys alone. Add another $4 mil in cap loss for Anderson, who I really wouldn't want to give up but would be better than some of our guys on rookie deals. But, although we would be toting $31.2 mil in dead cap, it would also free up roughly an additional $16 mil in cap space. If we make that move, we probably would have to get aggressive in free agency since our primary mode of adding talent is going to be reduced this offseason. Hypothetically, were this trade to happen prior to Samuel leaving, you keep him and try and obtain another effective WR to replace Robby and maybe draft a RB to replace CMC. We'd be set for years to come at QB but our margin in the draft would be razor thin.