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People were super high on the OL coming off the ending Steve Wilks had with this team. Folks were billing it as one of the strongest units we have gone into a season w/. They also convinced themselves that Miles Sanders was an awesome add. OL and run game were locked up going in. They loved the vet adds of AT and Chark to help Mingo/Bryce. . BY was basically a can't flop pick to go w/ an all star best ever staff. Talk here got wild at the time.

I’m okay with Auburn Tigers. Pretty solid when going that route. Especially first rounders

And yet people can’t understand why we can’t pull off back to back winnning seasons. It’s not hard to figure out. It’s probably the most simple problem I have seen. Draft Tigers, not Gamecocks. Science. *FAs don’t count. Not science. We have done that before. Hopefully this one is better than that last experiment

If you took a hot tub time machine to the huddle at this time of 2023…..it was a roster that rivaled 2003 with the bonus of an all star staff

This is Panther football!!!! He gonna be catching redzone fades in the endzone! Believe dat! * Disclaimer: Dabo Sweeney is actually 9ft tall and 400 lbs….but the podium hasn’t been altered.

I mentioned it pre draft but I'd be open to Curtis coming back if the Bills cut him. Think that would carry better odds for slot help than Renfrow.

full disclosure. If Hunter Renfrow makes the team and is a fraction of what he was......I will go full PJ Walker supporter mode. He will auto go to mystical status where all answers would be found.

Renfrow is my college GOAT. But a long NFL career was never in the cards for him IMO. I'll be shocked if he still has it. Plus, I think those Renfrow routes he stormed the NFL w/ had a film shelf life. To me, if we want a lotto pick to hit......it's gotta be Jimmy Horn we want to hit. but I maintain, we need AT out of hogging up those slot reps. I still say it drastically keeps the ceiling of O production down. I support a heavy mix of whoever into the slot. Coker, Horn, we need YAC.

and we are still way too dependent on what will be a 12th year AT (who debated retirement) and didn't stay healthy last year. AT should be a teams #4. He remains our actual #1 target.

I was more referencing the Panthers putting him out wide on the outside at WR. He wasn't a tweener in the context we were moving him around. That should of never been on the table. But yeah, gadget 3rd down RB or slot WR? Tweener in that regard. Sure.

I don't think Samuel is even a tweener. He is a slot WR that you can scheme some quirky stuff for around the line of scrimmage or backfield. Never made sense to draft him in a draft where you draft CMC though. CMC was going to eat everything you would essentially draft Samuel to do. And oddly enough, his best year......CMC was hurt the whole year.

Curtis Samuel could take it to the house. Sadly, we only used him properly 1 season.

31 teams in the NFL are going to start Deebo over AT in the slot.

I will say, I do like what you did right here. Independent of whatever yall are debating.

Didn't he buy Foxy's old place? He isn't just a member, he could watch from his window.

talk about a swing, from the hottest team in MLS to the coldest.

you generally don't get to pick your nickname. If you did, we would all have super cool ones.

every year of the Tepper era we enter a season where people are thinking the light can be seen. Varies year to year the number claiming we are finally climbing out of the gutter but it always exists. Hell, there was a movement here in Rhule's legit lame duck pointless last year year where he was forced to pull the blackballed Ben McAdoo out of the gutter getting hyped. I'll believe it when it actually occurs at this stage. I still contend the constant in the Tepper era has been random parts being put together. I still think the QB doesn't match the weapons and coach. So we will see. I'm still expecting a bottom 3rd O and D this year. I think what our opponents happen to look like will largely define our record. But I think we still hover in the 6-7 win world.

if that game was officiated honestly/good....the Panthers win. They weren't going to let Cam get that win when they could of added another bonus on the lore/legend of Peyton Manning.

I feel all lower paced sports will struggle going forward w/ eyeballs. I mean, America's pasttime might do a good job of ripping off the youth/parents with forever baseball and 58 little league world series each year you can play in......but MLB is a tough watch vs other sports. Golf the same. We are grooming humans to need constant action thanks to the magically internet. Hard to watch a game where the "action" and excitement might be a moment once an hour.

sometimes you got to take a step back and really appreciate how uniquely horrific and uncompetitive the Tepper Panthers have been........and fully appreciate how it expands beyond the NFL. We are a team/org all of sports recognize as the definition of bad (I assume we still hold the title of worst win % in all of pro sports in the Tepper era).

But just for the record, you basically just agreed with all the things that I was using for why I think his rookie year will be quieter than some’s expectations here. Slow off the line. Slow separation. Not as physical as his size suggests. Those are the things I think are going to take time to make him a good player at this level. I think it’s a realistic outlook that it’s going to take time to develop. if you can’t get off the line quick and can’t separate quick….that doesn’t really translate to short passing game weapon as a rookie. On top of the fact he isn’t as physical as his size suggests and is more finesse.

that type of QB, especially paired with a weaker NFL arm.....excel with quick game weapons though. it sounds like you are a big Tmac homer. I mean, if you are watching every snap he played in college. So, it's safe to say we likely won't see eye to eye on expectations for year 1. And my expectations on Tmac aren't all in his control. As I have also said, elsewhere, this is really year 2 for Bryce. So I expect the first half of the season to carry healthy odds of a year 2 regression (specifically the first half). Film, tendencies, and weaknesses in Dave's offense are going to be prepared for. out of curiosity, what cons to Tmac's game where in the scouting stuff you saw?

yeah, you can basically copy and paste my thoughts from this time last year. We are building an O more suited for Jake Delhomme than Bryce Young. Tmac and XL sound great for the downfield gunslinger Give them opportunities to make plays. From what I have seen, and the scouting stuff I have read.....TMac does not project as a get open quick WR. He is going to have to work on getting off the line at this level, getting open, etc. Which is all good. This you go to think people will be studs out the gate or you are hater logic just ain't what I do. Take my XL stance last year. I lobbied hard for him. When we drafted him I immediately told folks to pump their breaks on the wild expectations. If XL legitimately turned into what I think he can be.....his best setup in the league would not be paired w/ a QB like Young. if Bryce was going to be the dude, I would have lobbied for Ladd vs XL. I was an XL guy. And again, I would have gone Warren/Jeanty this draft. I would have invested in small ball talent for him to be the PG for.

looks like I was wrong on that going off memory. It was one of a couple stats I looked at the other week. Looks like I confused that league worst with the bad target %, yac per comp, etc stats I looked up. Where he was league worst. I still think solving the YAC and short pass game is the best way to maximize Bryce. He might of thrown deep ....but he has never been a good deep thrower. Outside of PFF declaring it with what ifs.