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Fact is, we went back to back with coaches who took us to Super Bowls. That actually isn’t bad. Far from what we wanted….but Fox and Rivera didn’t have bad runs here. Just disappointing ones. we probably were due for a coach/era that doesn’t work. That’s where I think we are. I don’t think anything good happens until the next coaching era. Could be a minute.

Maybe he was David Carr’d. Maybe Carr and Darnold simply weren’t good enough even if they hadn’t been behind those and OLs. Lot of QBs have been behind horrible OLs….and not been train wrecks because of it.

I think Mitch is a backup QB. But yeah, he was a better QB in Chicago than Darnold was in NY. Mitch Trubisky made Pro Bowl.

Well, it’s kind of hard to figure out what system fits you….when you don’t have a QB. QB IMO should dictate it.

Mitch, Menshew, etc were all better than Darnold. Other teams just rightfully viewed them as backups. But they have been better QBs than Sam. Or we could of drafted a QB and tied to build around and grow one. we handled the QB situation as poorly as possible. Sam is horrible with time and protection…so the give him a good OL narrative doesn’t have backing.

Can you be wrong about a rookie QB going into his 5th start? One that wasn’t even groomed to be the starter….and needs an offense built around his skill set?

Cool. Lot of rookie QBs play terrible. Especially when on bad teams and playing against good ones. It ain’t rocket science.

Justin Fields is a rookie playing the defending Super Bowl champs. He isn’t suppose to be good right now. His playing today isn’t a reason why we shouldn’t of drafted him. And I’ll make a friend board bet if PJ starts. If he does, we will have more offense than Sam was able to lead us to today.

Signing him as the only option was dumb. And so was picking up his option. And so was paying fluke season Anderson before seeing how this season played out. Lot of big time fails with the former Jets players. Still blows my mind how much of our “rebuild” is based off of paying Jets castoffs.

1-0, 20-0 victory. can’t say it can’t happen. When it has. I mean we have already done this before. Folks like you hyper focused on pointing out his play when thrown out there, behind and in comeback pass only scenarios. In his lone start I think he completed 70% of his passes and if you factored in drops he would have been at almost 80%. Moved the ball well between the 20s. If he can do that? Move the call between the 20s? Well that would be way better than Sam of late.

Sam Darnold is awful. Starting PJ essentially ensures we can move on from them both next year. Stick with Darnold and he could have a random 2 or 3 games like he always does (see his time in NY) ….and we could get stuck with him for a second season.

I’m open. I just don’t want non-power 5 college HC with only one conference title to his name. That’s not really a NFL coach resume….even if the Jets were thinking about doing it before us.

Menshew too. Lot of options this year. And likely much fewer next.

It will prevent this staff from having the option of trotting Sam back out there next year. Be done with him. it’s not about PJ being the guy. It’s about ending the Sam experiment. And forcing this staff to acknowledge the mistake and prevent them from doing the same thing again next year. Quit bringing in these established scrub QBs.

No. I’m not saying that. you would simply use it to evaluate if he is worth being the backup QB. And the answer is likely no. But it answers it for the world to see. The point is too move on from Sam. And if PJ sucks, you evaluate the practice squad kid. Not to be the starter…but to simply see if there is any point of having them in the building.

And PJ 100% should get the start next week vs Atlanta. You don’t only evaluate the play and outcome of inserting someone into pass only situations with guys that have already accepted defeat. we saw that last year with PJ. He was much better in his lone start than thrown in late and forced to be on one dimensional pass downs. and if he sucks in his start….go to the kid on the practice squad. You got to end the Sam experiment though. Staff has to acknowledge what they did going in to this season and officially move on from that mistake.

I will support anyone not named Sam starting going forward. End result of that forces this staff off all of them.

Really bad QBs make bad OLs even worse. the OL is a problem. Sam compounds it by being the guy behind it. If you have a bad OL….you need a good QB. Plenty of teams have and do play with weak OLs.

he has better skills position players around him than most QBs. check the other side of the ball. Daniel Jones has poo to manage this week. Sam has sucked for 4 straight years as a starting QB. Sam isn’t a NFL QB and we are getting what we deserve for bringing him in. What he should be is sitting on a roster like Mitch Trubisky, Menshew, etc. and those guys are BETTER. Which highlights what a bad decision this always was.

No one expected Darnold to carry the team. He is Sam Darnold. He is a liability. Sam was expected to be a functional game manager.

We have been doing that all season with Sam. the one game we prepped PJ and started him we moved the ball. We were able to win. So why not vs Atlanta. Sam is getting worse and worse as the season goes on now that people know what Carolina is going to do with him.

Defenses don’t make stops in the 4th q when there team has had no offense all game.

They should start PJ vs Atlanta. Give him a 2nd prepped start.

PJ does move well in the pocket. Great zip on the ball to DJ.

any team with a bad QB is going to suck. And we intentionally brought in the worst starting QB over the last 3 years to be our QB. None of this is a shock. And he magnifies every issue we have in the OL. The polar opposite of what a good QB does. this Matt Rhule and the FO’s fault. Because it was painfully obvious what Sam would be. Another pointless season. and after 2 years, we have done nothing to improve our OL/QB situation. The most important aspect of NFL football. Rhule should be fired. I don’t want scapegoats. He isn’t a NFL HC.