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@frankw it still has to be pointless with him, because even with hindsight being applied and Fitterer being a certified worthless dope....that would have still meant Scott was wrong in hindsight. There actually was no way for anything to of worked out better for us than the way Scott said it should of been lol.

Please feel free to share one where you called Fitterer out for being a horrific GM here....that isn't focused on him going behind Frank's back. and you should of fired Fitterer w/ Rhule because the era was nothing but bad. Comedy stupid bad. It's a pointless gamble to guess how much was Rhule's fault vs Fitterer....and then argue because you opted to blame Rhule for more than his fare that meant Fitterer somehow wasn't bad during that window. Fitt didn't have the resume for that type grace to be applied. Things often aren't that complicated. People pretend things are overly complicated often though. Panthers have been pretty easy to figure out the last several years. What went wrong and frankly what is going wrong in real time.

you defended Fitterer until the end and only said he should be fired for stabbing Frank in the back. Not that he should be fired for just being an overall nightmare trainwreck GM (which he was) if you put aside the Game of Thrones report that came out. Not a thing mischaracterized about that. and you certainly argued this time last year that Scott Fitterer absolutely had to remain and not go w/ Rhule. Nothing mischaracterized about that either. whenever people call you out on being wrong....it's always some not really retort. Again, no one cares if anyone is actually wrong. Everyone here is and often. But how you choose to go about it is rather unique. That's all. Have a day.

it was Tepper who wanted to trade up for no one in particular IMO. I feel it was Fitterer who talked Tepper into Young. Or at the very least, allowed it to occur by not siding with Frank. People have always deferred everything away from Fitterer. Jaycee Horn was Fitterer too. Not Rhule. Matt Rhule was never making all the calls. You can't convince me Matt Rhule on his own opted to use his very first NFL pick on a LOB era DB in the top 10 and it wasn't the Seattle guy. Young also meshes in well w/ that Seattle mindset.

I mean, ain't you the dude who thinks the only real reason Fitterer should of been fired was because he stabbed Frank in the back.....not the fact he was the worst GM in franchise history that made Marty Hurney look like the greatest football mind in the history of the sport? same dude who argued tooth and nail that Fitterer just had to be brought back once we fired Rhule and ended that nightmare era? but once again, it's everyone else that isn't making good points.

Because Carolina never has 1 problem. We have tons of problems and we smash them all together. thats why DJ is having a career year away from here thars why CMC is having a MVP caliber year away from here that’s why Baker is going to the 2nd round of the post season that’s why Joe Brady his going to the 2nd round of the post season

That Bills OC really has the Bills cooking. They went from no chance at the playoffs to nearly unstoppable.

Easily Cowboys. Because they come with a D. I call the Os a push.

Maybe. Could be a couple things. A legit HC interview it ain’t. Could be the good ole boy network trying to help a coach that good screwed via some PR gift but I don’t care to look into the history of who is in the Titans My guess, aren’t we blocking all interviews right now? So if someone wanted to kick the tires on Brown for an equal or lesser role the Panthers aren’t allowing that to occur…so you would have to hold a bogus HC interview. Still find out all you wanted to know about him in the process.

Gotcha. Didn’t get the reference. all I knew was Sting was super popular and the face of it therefore it in that regard we were the anti Sting

I don’t think we are blocking Tabor, Ejiro, etc from jobs because they got realistic odds of competing for the HC job. Think that’s Tepper wanting to influence his next coach’s staff….again.

I don’t know much about wrestling….but I know the Panthers aren’t Sting.

Argument is there we are just offering money though. Not control. Frank didn’t have control not a given the next guy will either. With that big paycheck likely could come staff and players and a direction he really doesn’t want

Give where we are….we need a leader. And that leader needs to hire X and O guys as his coordinators.

Mike McCarthy might get fired at halftime. Absolutely, after this game

Even if it wasn’t be design, GB has had their talented QBs sit and learn.

True. But Day has 2 QBs to his name…both dynamic and good enough to really stand out at the NFL level from the jump. I mean even if you hate Fields’ game….he set records on the ground in the NFL out of the gate. I think you gotta separate Day from Urban in terms of Ohio St QBs

Well, it might be splitting hairs to some but I think there is notable difference between Saban’s rosters and Ryan Day’s. Even at their peaks of this past era, I don’t think Clemson, OU, OSU whoever really compare top to bottom. Sometimes you just had Saban beat at some key spots.

True. But overall, he recruited the best OL and skill talent in all of college football. His QBs always padded their stats throwing to wide open guys. Was true for a lot of Urban’s QBs too. Just too much talent around those QBs

All the Bama QBs were under Saban. I tie it to coach/systems and not uniform. Fields and Stroud start a new era. They weren’t Urban guys. You didn’t want an Urban/Saban QB.

Bama doesn’t really get to claim Hurts IMO. He didn’t figure it out really until he left Bama.

Bama QBs are still Bama QBs. The error was pretending something changed

Yeah, but UFC essentially took boxing out didn’t? And UFC uses essentially the same PPV format boxing did.

We already gave in to them putting them on ESPN. Then on NFLN. Then on Amazon. Now it’s Peacock. Football fans gave in a long time ago. Next will be Apple I guess. They probably will do it just to prevent others from getting easy action to their services they want to put out of business.