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PJ Walker remains the most entertaining QB we have employed post Cam. That’s a problem.

Theieln isn’t getting open. Hasn’t been since he arrived. Those were screen passes.

I mean, we hired a guy that was fired because of his playcalling.

Our new all star staff is largely composed of 60-70 year olds. Maybe they think it’s still preseason. *sorry to any 60-70 year olds for the old people joke

In fairness, the play broke down. So the WRs were in scramble mode.

Then we need to fire everyone and hire competent people. Because this is a rebuild. And if they think this is how you win now….we got big trouble.

Frank Reich's teams always were heavy shotgun Young was heavy shotgun in college Marriage was always going to result in Young not being under center that much. lot of college QBs don't know how to do a traditional QB sneak because they aren't running them in college. I hate it because my college team has done it for decades. Shotgun on the 1 yard line is infuriating to watch as a fan.

teams are now adopting that Eagle sneak too. With folks pushing the QB from behind. Eagles I think could go the entire field doing just that.

lol. your entire argument boils down to whatever Carolina is selling....is the truth. Again, have at it. 32 teams have gone out there for decades and sold to there fanbase that everyone agrees and they landed exactly who they wanted. Their entire board worked out perfectly. Everyone agreed on it all too. Perfection in motion lol. Believe it. I don't care. I just don't. I think NFL teams are often dysfunctional. They lie to the public. They lie to reporters. They to everyone. And they are mom and pop shops largely run by egocentric billionaires.

I didn't skip over that part. You skipped to after the draft. When they were then in sell our decision to the fanbase mode. Which you keep acting like is the ultimate truth that everyone just has to believe. But those sales jobs are always the same. Doesn't matter the team.

I mean, it's all picking and choosing. Go listen to any NFL org the day after the draft. They are doing PR. That's why all 32 teams got the #1 guy on their board the entire draft. They were just praying the 10 teams in front of them would be foolish enough to pass on. They weren't thinking of anyone else. And everyone is high fiving in complete agreement on every single pick, on all 32 teams. Every time. I mean, you want to find guys selling bologna. Go listen to all 32 teams sell their fanbase on how awesome every single draft has gone. you keep going to the, well the Panthers said X.....so it totally has to be X. I mean, they said it. Everyone isn't going to buy that team narrative 100% like you do. It's ok for some us not to.

lol. Frank on Tepper and them going to get the #1 His analysis (Tepper) of those options, I thought, was spot on—kinda helped push us to the right decision to get up to No. 1 and to make that decision and to be in control.” More Frank on Tepper in regards to the QB selection. He’s (Tepper) intimately involved . This quarterback that we pick will be the face of our franchise. And so, obviously he has to be comfortable with that." NFL insider Adam Schefter “There’s a belief that David Tepper loves Bryce Young, [and] Frank Reich likes CJ Stroud,” NFL teams are mom and pop shops. Tepper is a billionaire owner. And AGAIN, he told you in his own words this type decision would be the type he would inject himself into. He was specific about the type dealings where he thought he would need to be in and not in. This was literally an example he used in terms of the type decisions he wouldn't stay out of.

it's 2023. Inside scoops by legit reporters are done via social media. and yes, the Panther marketing department does Panther PR. They help paint the picture the Panthers want out there in the universe. We have been over this before. And there you go with the exaggerated projection. Thats' not doctoring a video. It's PR.

I mean, if I spent billions on the Panthers....I probably would want my preferred option all things be close. Bryce probably had the highest floor. Seems like the safest option especially coming off the Rhule clown show. And I think most of the recent moves from Frank, Bryce, to all the old dinosaurs, etc......seem to be the org prioritizing stability coming off one of that embarrassment era.

No one is arguing David Tepper is making all the picks. David Tepper in his own words told you he would inject himself into certain aspects of HIS team. And a #1 overall pick/face of the franchise type pick is I believe literally an example he used.

Never said Tepper controls everything. You won't find that anywhere. That's you projecting for your argument. We were talking about the #1 overall pick. Those are the type decisions Tepper said would be part of. His words. He spoke on that. And again, there were legit reporters that covered the disagreements in house on what the Panthers should do with the pick. In the end, they selected the guy it was reported the owner wanted. Not Reich. Tepper is part of the big decisions. Not small ones. Bryce Young? Tepper is in on that. Backup nickel corner? Not a Tepper concern. Again, Tepper already discussed when and where he would poke his nose. It's his mom and pop shop after all.

It's not a tactic to acknowledge what NFL teams are and do. It's just what they do. Again, your tactic is to take whatever the Panthers put out there as the gospel. I But when legit NFL reporters and multiple ones are telling you X. There is generally something there about X. That's my stance. And NFL teams don't like when reporters find out stuff they don't want aired out there. And they often lie. I don't treat anything as the gospel. There is enough smoke on the billionaire Tepper (and others like him) that he isn't the fan fiction version you tend to defend and create. Sitting in the corner and just wanting to make sure everyone dotting the i.....and just letting everyone else run his mom and pop shop however they seem fit.

I mean, NFL teams aren't honest. We know that. You simply choose to treat Panther narratives they want set after the fact as the gospel. I don't. Have at it though. The Panthers would never say, yes, that reporting was correct. Frank wanted X and Tepper wanted Y lol. Every team is going to bullshit some agreement narrative 99% of the time. Just like with each draft picks. That kid is exactly who everyone wanted. We all agreed. He was #1 on everyone's board. You picking and choosing like the rest of us. You just can't accept that. I might listen to a long time NFL reporter.....but you are just listening to the Panther PR team. You claiming one is fact. I'm just acknowledging the reporter and that there are no real facts in most of these type discussions. At least, while everyone is working together. Real facts generally come out after everyone parts ways.

1st, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 6th + DJ Moore. I think that is correct in terms of what we gave up QBs recently. Plus it gets weird how you want to define giving up CMC. But he was part of that equation. And then note the rest of CMC was for DJ Johnson essentially.

everything is rumors. or PR messaging from the org after a decision has been made to set narratives. you pick and choose like everyone else. I mean, Tepper in his own words and on camera said what type decisions he would be involved with. And the #1 overall draft pick/franchise QB would be one of those type decisions Tepper said he would be in on.

Tepper himself has said those are the type decisions he will be involved in as the owner. He isn't going to get involved in who the backup nickel corner is but will the franchise QB. and reports/rumors was their was a disagreement about QB. Staff liked Stroud (who was also discussed to fit the Reich mold the most). Tepper liked Young.

watch Deion bench his son for this game for the eye poke. That's the real built-in excuse. And there is precedent for the eye poke discipline.

tight early. Saints run away with it late. Game closer than score will suggest. 31-13

experienced vets doesn't = it suits a quick small ball attack. I think that will be a big problem overall on the year with the Bryce rookie plan. Thielen and TMJ don't fit it. Our RBs don't fit it. Then factor in Frank has the call sheet.