mav1234

It has been hard but many of us appreciate yours and others attempts to discuss the reality of this team based on facts more than emotion. We all have our emotional reactions but it's good to take a step back to see the numbers from time to time. I really hope we turn it around on a number of levels but it's definitely hard right now to talk about football in a positive light.

At some point I think we need to draft a QB to be competitive consistently. Retreads aren't working. But next year let's focus on the OL, get a decent journeyman vet in camp to compete with Darnold, and go into the year after doing whatever it takes to get our QB. Ofc if the right qb falls to us at our pick next year that changes things... But we really, really need to invest in young talent on the OL.

Honestly the thread has little value. And unlike other trash threads, really isn't much about the Panthers. So lock away?

They are holding us back, and there's 192738293 threads in which that has been expounded on... But I mean... any time any other player is mentioned we absolutely must mention Darnold's mistakes in comparison? The vast majority of fans and coaching staff aren't giving Darnold a pass. We can talk about a player we were associated with pre draft without needing to caveat everything with "but our starting QB also sucks", don't you think?

You jumped into a thread about Mac Jones and brought up Darnolds numbers, including TDs, in a direct comparison to Jones... Of course someone will highlight Darnold has more TDs... You don't need to walk around on egg shells, imo, but you came into a thread about a different QB to poo on ours. I may have missed people in this thread celebrating Darnold over Jones... But I think the reaction is a bit expected.

I mean, I don't see the point in making incomplete comparisons and drawing a conclusion like Mac Jones has equal stats to Darnold from them... Darnold has accounted for almost twice the TDs as Mac but thrown far too many INTs. He's not a rookie and should be better than that. Jones gets a pass on the INTs as a rookie. Not so for our QB imo. Frankly Darnold should have much better numbers than Jones. It's bad he doesn't have better numbers than he does. But that point can be made without ignoring what he does contribute in rushing TDs, too. Edit: lol wait are you really complaining about people "shifting" a conversation to protecting Darnold when you seem to be the one that came into a thread to complain about him?

Look I'm not happy with Darnolds play but the idea we should ignore his rushing TDs is asinine.... They happened, defenses are forced to account for his mobility in the red zone now... And it's not like including them somehow changes the narrative of an inconsistent player that isn't performing how he needs to, even if he also isn't getting the help to change that from various areas.

With a good OL, almost any RB and QB can look decent. Without an OL, you rely on incredible talent, like CMC. Scheme can make up for a bad OL to an extent too, especially with the right outlet options... It's been clear the last few weeks we are really missing a competent receiving option in our backfield. I love Hubbard in many ways but he's a liability in the passing game.

Gotta keep the game close...

No kidding, had him stopped short and somehow couldn't take him down.

He's got a serious injury to his non throwing shoulder. Hasn't played at all.

Bad angle on a tackle and Teddy gets a red zone TD to Gordon.

Good god, Teddy throws the worst deep passes I've ever seen.

This should be a blow out, but the fact it isn't ... Do the Broncos make half time adjustments? Could be a game in the 2nd half if they can...

Ugh, Denver can't afford to lose Von Miller...

Stefanski does seem like someone that could get the most out of him.

Big FG block there. Two gloves back out for the two minute drill.

That Browns line ... What I wouldn't give for them ... Uggh.

I'm having flashbacks, man. Their offense looks like ours later in the season when we couldn't get anything sustained going. It's just painful.

Keenum is a good backup / vet journeyman. He's not your long term future but he is honestly pretty solid. That is probably Teddy's future. Fitzpatrick is ... Sooooo hot and cold. Dunno what to make of him .

Good god Teddy throw to the fuging sticks

Man do not like Keenum trying to air it out either ...

It hurts me watching Teddy throw balls more than 20 yards. He just can't do it.

Teddy doing his best Darnold impression... Although tbh dropping that kinda weak long throw is Teddy 2020 too.

He is exactly the kind of vet I wish we had acquired and hope we do for next year...